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What must I do to be saved

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I believe there are the elect which the Bible says, because God is sovereign. God already knows who is saved or not, he knows our fate. Maybe the ones who decided to believe are the elect as well, I'm not 100% sure.

But I agree we are saved by grace. We believe Jesus is Lord, we know we have all fallen short and need a savior. We believe Jesus took our place for us and died on the cross for our sins, and that he raised on the 3rd day. What he did is enough for our salvation, we need to trust in him and believe.

And now we are saved.

After that I'm sure we all want to get closer to God, by prayer, repenting, and learning more about him through his word. He saved us, we didn't save ourselves he did. Its what Jesus did for us.
You can be 100% sure that God did choose to save His elect before He created the world. So it's not a case of God looking down the corridors of time and seeing who would choose to believe and who would reject the Gospel.

The Bible makes it clear that God is the One who decided who would be saved and who would be left in their sin. God is either sovereign over all things including salvation or He is not, we can't have it both ways.

god does not want us to live our lives in fear, wondering if we are going to end up in hell. He has given us His Word and promised to save every single true believer so we can live without ant fear of damnation. Fear stops us from enjoying life in Christ, who purchased eternal paradise for all true believers.
 
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Faithless works cannot save. Workless faith cannot save. This is the understanding of the matter for us, anyhow.
So, what formula does your denomination teach. Is it a combined effort between you and God, that brings about a successful salvation?

Every denomination has their own formula for success, but the Bible teaches something different altogether. Jesus simply said that He would save as many as believe in Him, so much for your false doctrine of "workless faith".

Every works based doctrine is Demonic in origin, Jesus warned us that may would be deceived by the doctrine of Demons in the last days. Be careful who you believe, don't believe those who's teaching doesn't line up with the Bible.
 
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Every denomination has their own formula for success, but the Bible teaches something different altogether. Jesus simply said that He would save as many as believe in Him, so much for your false doctrine of "workless faith".

Every works based doctrine is Demonic in origin, Jesus warned us that may would be deceived by the doctrine of Demons in the last days. Be careful who you believe, don't believe those who's teaching doesn't line up with the Bible.

You mean this Bible?

"14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?"

James 2:14-20.

Like I said, a faith that does not work is not saving faith.
 
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You mean this Bible?

"14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?"

James 2:14-20.

Like I said, a faith that does not work is not saving faith.
Yes Sir, that's right but you have twisted it back to front. Faith and good works come as a result of conversion, you don't have faith and do good works to be saved. You do them as a thank you for being saved.

Every single religion in the world teaches that you must have faith and do good works to be saved, but Christ never taught that. He simply said to believe in Him and you will be saved, then wise men came after Him and added their own fallen false religious requirements.
 
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You mean this Bible?

"14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?"

James 2:14-20.

Like I said, a faith that does not work is not saving faith.

On this part, I must intercede.

Nearly every single denomination teaches this except for Baptists.

Martin Luther summed it up this way:

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Though this epistle of St. James was rejected by the ancients, I praise it and consider it a good book, because it sets up no doctrines of men but vigorously promulgates the law of God. However, to state my own opinion about it, though without prejudice to anyone, I do not regard it as the writing of an apostle, and my reasons follow.

In the first place it is flatly against St. Paul and all the rest of Scripture in ascribing justification to works 2:24). It says that Abraham was justified by his works when he offered his son Isaac (2:20); Though in Romans 4:22-22 St. Paul teaches to the contrary that Abraham was justified apart from works, by his faith alone, before he had offered his son, and proves it by Moses in Genesis 15:6. Although it would be possible to "save" the epistle by a gloss giving a correct explanation of justification here ascribed to works, it is impossible to deny that it does refer to Moses' words in Genesis 15 (which speaks not of Abraham's works but of his faith, just as Paul makes plain in Romans 4) to Abraham's works. This fault proves that this epistle is not the work of any apostle.
In the second place its purpose is to teach Christians, but in all this long teaching it does not once mention the Passion, the resurrection, or the Spirit of Christ. He names Christ several times; however he teaches nothing about him, but only speaks of general faith in God. Now it is the office of a true apostle to preach of the Passion and resurrection and office of Christ, and to lay the foundation for faith in him, as Christ himself says in John 15[:27], "You shall bear witness to me.? All the genuine sacred books agree in this, that all of them preach and inculcate [_treiben_] Christ. And that is the true test by which to judge all books, when we see whether or not they inculcate Christ. For all the Scriptures show us Christ, Romans 3[:21]; and St. Paul will know nothing but Christ, I Corinthians 2[:2]. Whatever does not teach Christ is not yet apostolic, even though St. Peter or St. Paul does the teaching. Again, whatever preaches Christ would be apostolic, even if Judas, Annas, Pilate, and Herod were doing it." (__ibid__).

But this James does nothing more than drive to the law and its works. Besides, he throws things together so chaotically that it seems to me he must have been some good, pious man, who took a few sayings from the disciples of the apostles and thus tossed them off on paper. Or it may perhaps have been written by someone on the basis of his preaching. He calls the law a "law of liberty" [1:25], though Paul calls it a law of slavery, of wrath, of death, and of sin."

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Both Paul and James use Abraham for examples, with the notable exception of where in Abraham's life they use.

Paul uses Abraham as his example from Gen. 15:16, while James uses him from the sacrifice of Isaac.

Both are technically correct in that none of Abrahams works saved him. Abraham's "work" was to "have seed through Sarah", while James cites Abrahams willingness to sacrifice.

What this argument boils down to, is this:

Paul teaches that a saving faith produces works. James more or less sums it up as it does no good to call yourself a Christian if you cannot point to works to prove it.

One is justification before God, the other is justification before men.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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