What makes one religion better than another?

[GeratTzedek]

i thought it was clear enough .... what if God created us and the world in such a way that science alone is not enough to know him .... hence ... we use the word faith

I am a very religious woman. I know all about faith. I am also an educated woman. I know about science. And I know about writing and composition. Rasta can say things that make me roll my eyes. But there was nothing in what he said which you quoted in that particular post to complain about. Your response made no sense. He actually wasn't even talking about science per se in your quote, but what the definition of fact was, and he was correct. Responding to this quote by defending yourself against having "scientific standards" IMPOSED on you was just nutty.
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Black and white thinking is particular to certain peronality types, NOT belief systems. Science is not connected with black and white thinking anymore than a paricular religion.

The great irony, and the reason I laughed, was that your response ITSELF was an example of black and white thinking -- "Everything to do with science bad -- don't impose it on me."

You need to understand the nature of this forum. The typical scientific materialist doesn't come on here. With exceptions noted, the kind of atheists and agnostics and other secularists who come into a Christian forum tend to be extremists. You cannot judge "Science" by them.

In fact, I would say that internet forums and chats tend to attract extremists and fanatics of all sorts. (Exceptions noted -- I'm talking a broad generalization.) They can't find an audience in real life, so they have found a captive audience here. This is why I find that the adherants of varous faiths here online tend not to be representative at all of the same groups when I visit them and get to know them out in the real world.

All this to say that I hope have not reached your mistaken rejection of scientific method due to the atheist fanatics you encounter in forums.

 

[Futuwwa]

I'm a scientist too

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by sacredsin In another thread a member stated that Judaism is superior to Islam. Why?

And further more, what makes one religion better than another in your opinion?

I'm a scientist too

I flunked Science in High School.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Futuwwa again.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Deut 28:13 And YHWH gives you to head/07218 ro'sh and not to tail/02180 zanab, and you become surely to above/04605 ma`al and not you shall become to below/04295 mattah. That you shall listen to instructions of YHWH your 'Elohiym which I instructing you the day to observe and to do.

John 8:23 And He said to them, "Ye out of the below/katw <2736> are, I out of the above/anw <507> am. Ye out of this, the world, are. I not am out of the world, this.
24 I said then to ye, that ye shall be dying in the sins of ye, for if-ever no ye should be believing that I am, ye shall be dying in the sins of ye.'

John 18:36 Answered the Jesus, "the kingdom, the Mine, not is out of the world, this. If out of the world, this, the kingdom, the Mine, the servants to Me contended, that no I may be being given up to the Judeans. Now yet the kingdom, the Mine, not is hence."

 

[ChavaK]

for me as a muslim, islam is superior to all others. and comparsion among others do not matter. because ultimately, islam would earn the person eternity in heaven. this life and all wrong religions along with it would someday vanish and they would not count.

my response is overwhelmed by the fact that there will be eternity in heaven and hell. so those 60 years we spend on eath dont matter really unless a person submit and worship God the correct way (i.e. islam)

Interesting, this sounds a lot like Christianity.
We Jews, on the other hand, do not live our
faith dwelling about whether it will get us into
heaven or the lack of it into hell.
Our focus is on the here and now, to follow the
mitzvot G-d has set before us. Not for
an eternal reward, but solely because He
commands it.

Thanks for your perspective!

 

[GeratTzedek]

I'm a scientist too

Very cool. What field?

I am notoriously well read in the soft sciences (psychology, anthropology) but I like the hard sciences as well, and my science professors enjoyed me because despite any beliefs I might have, I have the capacity to put them temporarily on the shelf in order to evaluate evidence objectively. I almost changed my major to Geology to become a Hydrologist. I am SO in love with Plate Tectonics.

 

[Futuwwa]

Physics.

 

[vajradhara]

Namaste SacaredSin,

what makes one religion superior to another is several fold, the quality of its Dharma, the ability of the teacher to expound the Dharma and the ability of the Sangha to implement the Dharma well expounded.

outwardly there are several ways which we can ascertain if a religious praxis is a valid spiritual refuge or if it is simply another fetter to the Wheel. if a religions teachings promote the lessening of suffering for all beings, it is a valid spiritual refuge and a Dharma. if a religion teaches moral and ethical values which are implemented and upheld by the Sangha, it is a valid spiritual refuge. if the Dharma taught is good in the beginning, good in the middle and good in the end, it is a valid spiritual refuge.

in the final analysis Buddha Dharma concludes that most of the world religions are valid spiritual refuges though, and this is often not mentioned, it is correct that Buddha Dharma holds itself as the final, ultimate, Dharma praxis that a being will undergo before final Liberation.

metta,

~v

 

[randomman]

Interesting, this sounds a lot like Christianity.
We Jews, on the other hand, do not live our
faith dwelling about whether it will get us into
heaven or the lack of it into hell.
Our focus is on the here and now, to follow the
mitzvot G-d has set before us. Not for
an eternal reward, but solely because He
commands it.

Thanks for your perspective!

we have the same thing in Islam. it is called "Ikhlas" or sincerety. for the deeds of muslim to be accepted, the muslim must be sincere to God.

but it is part of human nature to expect something in return (after all that is what motivates us to do our jobs in this life). when a person is stressed or going through hardship or weak faith, reward/punishment can deter the person from disobeying God and to hang on until the hardship passes away

 

[DoubtingThomas29]

That is a good question, what makes one religion better than another? I feel that all faiths and religion could really benefit from a comparitive religion class, where people could compare religions. I tend to like Buddhism, with their saying "their is a truth." I like that one, I think liberal catholics and protestants, are rational to talk too.

Islam has a problem with freedom of religion and even say they kill apostates, which is unfortuante, but I got feeling, Futwaa wouldn't kill an apostate, he would be like "so what you don't believe in God, religion is there if you need it."

May the God of your choice be happy with you! Nano Amita A butsu, = There is a Truth!

 

[InnocentOdion]

This is my take on it.

I don't think any religion can be better than another (usually). The only exception is when one gets a cult such as Heaven's Way (old Heaven's Way), or when religion controls a human being's thoughts and is used to instil terror and has people scared to do something such as be their true sexuality and thus unhappy, because of a fear or eternal damnation), that is a worse religion than one which brings
peace love and happiness and encourages wisdom, etc.

But nothing can beat FSMism, morningstar was right.

 

[InnocentOdion]

May the God of your choice be happy with you! Nano Amita A butsu, = There is a Truth!

Hehe. Do you mean, "Namu Amida Butsu"?

 

[DoubtingThomas29]

Close enough, thanks though.