As much as I love CF, in all the years I've been around here, I've never found it to be a great place for fellowship with like minded believers. Sure, I've had a few conversations, got to know (maybe) a few people a little better, but so far as deep meaningful lasting fellowship/friendship is concerned, not so much. If there's one thing I've learned, it's that where two or more people are, disagreement is not far behind. The more people, the more disagreement. The solution I've come to, is learning to appreciate a certain amount of disagreement, and trying to understand where others are coming from. For example, I disagree with Baptists on baptism, but I love reading and listening to Calvinistic Baptists on most any other subject, even when they discuss baptism, I can tolerate it (for the most part) because I once held the same view.
I think of myself as simply a Christian above all else, second I am a Protestant because my belief system aligns with Catholicism post Reformation, so in a sense Protestantism is Reformed Catholicism and a person only needs to learn more about the early Reformers and read from them to see this is the case. In other words, the Reformation did not entail a complete and total break from the Catholic Church, rather a purging of errors, a getting back to the Bible. Third I am a Calvinist and use it more to help others know where I am coming from, of course this has it's advantages and disadvantages. Many times I have thought about simply identifying myself as just a Christian, to decrease people's preconceived notions concerning Calvinists. Fourth I am a Presbyterian, a specific type of Calvinism I hold to, although I thought of myself as simply a Calvinist for quite some time while dealing with differences among Calvinists, which historically would include several denominations. At my core though, I am simply a conservative Christian, conservative as opposed to liberal, separating myself from liberal theology and it's proponents. I can sympthasize with Christians who are non-denom though, I understand there are many reasons behind identifying as non-denom, and I appreciate the emphasis of many within non-denom, the get back to the Bible, Christ centered, God centered approach. However, to me, the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. I do look forward to the gathering of all of God's elect in Christ, in Heaven where there will be no denominational boundaries to separate us. What a great and glorious day it will be!
Denominations breed separation. Yet the bible states we are all one. Jesus prayed that we might be one. coincidentally "non-denom" is also a grouping and a title to separate me from yous.
Come out from among them and be ye separate. Does this mean come out from the world? Most likely it means to come out from whatever i thought I was in before believing I am in the right place now. :-/
I've thought about identifying myself as non-denom.....but decided to become nobody instead. May i continue to decrease that He might increase. No more I but Christ.....
For me it was very simple. The Good Lord led me to a local church that happens to be non-denominational. It was refreshing (as well as shocking at first) to participate in a service where teaching the scripture was front and center. That was very different from the church in which I grew up.
I grew up in the Roman Catholic Church. I don't really want to hash out the differences here on this thread. There are a ton of them on this site already.That's so cool! If you don't mind me asking, what denomination would you say the church you grew up was part of, and how it differed from a non-denom church?
I grew up in the Roman Catholic Church. I don't really want to hash out the differences here on this thread. There are a ton of them on this site already.
I left the Assembly of God church when I was 24 the week the pastor announced the next 6 weeks of sermons would be about the doctrines of the church...I did not want to be bound up in religious ideology and doctrinal teachings that focused on the man and not God. So I prayed and asked God and i found a new church and the next 10 years my spirit grew to heights I may never have reached in a denominational church.
This way of looking at theology is very different from how I look at it, and I really want to understand your point of view, so is it okay if I ask you to elaborate? I recognize that this is not my home forum, and I promise to be polite.
It sounds like your pastor was announcing a series of sermons on questions like "What do we mean when we say that Jesus was God and man?", "What does baptism mean?", "Why do we speak in tongues?", and so on; and if I understand you, this kind of analysis hinders your spiritual life instead of helping it. I can imagine that what's going on is maybe one of the following:
1) You're a practical person, and you'd rather stop analyzing and get on with living the Christian life; or
2) You want to be faithful to your own individual Christian beliefs, without a church telling you what to believe; or
3) Analysis of Christian experience interferes with the actual experience -- the way, say, that analyzing a poem to death might interfere with experiencing the poem, or analyzing one of Beethoven's symphonies might distract you from listening to the music.
Is it one of these, or something else?
I am, by the way, glad that you've found a church that helps you to serve and worship.
That makes sense to me. Thanks for helping me to understand.I am inclined to say all 3 of your choices had something to do with my decision, but mostly I felt that a church should never promote their doctrines in a church sermon. It should be about God, it should be in the Bible. If we are not being taught according to God's Word then what are we being taught? What do we have to back up the teaching of doctrines to be biblically correct? How can I prove or disprove that this is the way God intended for us to worship? Then there is the scripture that tells us not to follow the doctrines of men...so, in summary I just want to go to church and hear the message of the Bible. I don't want to be told to be a member of a church I have to follow their doctrines of belief.
Instead of saying non-denom, why not just Christian or child of the living God. Denominations are a separation in the body of Christ. We should be of one mind and one body. People take things from outside the word then try and fit it into the bible, costly mistake.