Light hearted;54098194]Ozell, I'm sure you've read about fruit, and I'm sure you remember I mentioned I don't sense your words showing fruit.
do to the level of understanding perhaps?
Fruit is the outside effort, "work", that a believer does that shows to the world of the Spirit within them. It is a nudging from the Spirit, from the "inside" that we act upon.
servants of God lead by example it is our actions inward and outward that brings in the fruits.
Jn 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
14: If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
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For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
works is required inwardly and outwardly
1Tm 4:12 Let no man despise thy youth;
but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.
Jms 5:10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord,
for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
1Pt 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called:
because Christ also suffered for us,
leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
in order to accomplish the walk Jesus and most of the prophets did a person will have to be filled with the spirit of God.
Jesus was spit upon, hair pulled, called names, beat, and yet he maintained his inward spirit and outward actions.
for us to follow in his steps require a whole lot of spirit and a whole lot of work.
Jn 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
follow in Jesus steps> work!
Jn 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship him in spirit and in truth.
Most of your comments are a nudging from the outside, man doing work to find God.
is work required to do these things that the Lord ask
Jn 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are
they which testify of me.
Eph 3:4
Whereby, when ye read,
ye may understand my
knowledge in the mystery of
Christ)
action on you part is required whether you believe or not.
Rom 10v 13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15: And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17:
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Believers works is God doing work through man.
again
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So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Heb 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Jn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
have the believer or non believer seen God?
so it is up to us to show the non believer God even though we have not seen him.
this will require time and effort. WORK!
The unbeliever has to help himself as does the believer
.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying,
Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
How? Go back to Romans 10
Let's look at Phil 2:12...work "out" your salvation with fear and trembling.
Your salvation is in direct relationship with having the Holy Spirit with"in" you. Eph. 1:13 is your guarantee.
13: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
what is the process in this verse LH?
the process is
we must trust
hearing the word of truth
hearing the gospel of salvation
we believe
then we must be sealed with the holy spirit of promise.
again lets read Romans10 to understand this process in Ephesans
Rom 10v 13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14:
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15: And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17:
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
now apply it to the verse you quoted.
Once recieving the Holy Spirit it is now time to to do outward works to demomstrate the Spirit with"in" you. Thous "work "out" your salvation". The words "in" and "out" can be taken literally.
before we receive the Holy Spirit other actions are required.
go back and read your verse again.
Works is now in the name of Jesus.
of course it is but we still have to do it.
who said thou shalt not steal? Jesus
who did he say it to? man
so in the name of Jesus I don't steal.
Not in the name of the man himself, or woman herself.
of course
it is not written
Ps 118:8
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Ps 146:3
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.