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You say the topic is not about love, and about the law, but your verse in John says they rely on each other. I totally agree with John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command" But you seem to leave out grace and say that following the law without question is more important. But 1 John 4:10 says "Not that we loved God, but that He first loved us" We litterally cannot love God without recongnising that He loved us before we loved Him. So if loving Him is doing his commands, we cannot do what he commands until we have fully accepted grace and recongnised His love for us, otherwise following the commands will have sinful intentions. We must fully rely on grace (God's sacrifice for us) BEFORE we consider the law. I agree that the law was not replaced, but fulfilled by Jesus' death because it is undenyable proof of God's love and mercy.

Sorry if I came off harsh in the previous post, it just sounds like you are discussing topics already covered, and sending post after post, not giving anybody a chance to respond.

I'm not offended in the least.

post after post is how I am suppose to answer those who responded to my post.

if you want to talk about grace we can. I have a lesson about grace created a few months ago.

but the law Jesus replace is the law of animal sacrifce

he replaced the law of animal sacrifice with his blood

Jesus blood is Grace

Jesus died for our sins

Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

the blood of Jesus, he gave us Jesus.
 
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how many time have you been born again?

the question seems to be asked from a false premise . so i'll ask the question:

1) What does born again mean to you?

2) How can you be born again more than once?

3) What did you mean by your question?
 
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what is written in the bible we are suppose to know and understand!!!

I agree with this, but do you not agree that we are not all at the same levels of understanding? They have been led astray and we cannot put a block up in their path by condemning them ourselves. If they have true faith and belief in GOD and in Christ Jesus, HE will guide them there.

John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has no believed in the name of God's one and only Son."

If they believe in Christ Jesus they are not condemned, none of them are denying Christ Jesus. Therefore, I personally must accept that they are not condemned.

John 3:19-20 "This is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed."

They are still drinking milk and not meat if they do not on their own expose there darkness of evil to the Light which Christ has provided. They have to do this for themselves, another cannot do this for them.

John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through GOD.

The light of Christ Jesus is working in us all, we all are in the same boat and should display the compassion of Christ Jesus to all. It may be hard to do, but this is what we must do.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

You see, they have the testimony and whether they want to believe that whether by the spirit or by the written word is the law, I have to have faith that GOD will bring them to this understanding.

It may be that our gifts are different and this is why we see things differently? We both believe in the same thing, I just believe in a different approach.

And there will be many who simply do not listen:

Psalms 55:19 God, who is enthroned forever, will hear them and afflict them--Selah men who never change their ways and have no fear of God.
 
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They are still drinking milk and not meat if they do not on their own expose there darkness of evil to the Light which Christ has provided. They have to do this for themselves, another cannot do this for them.

Hi Natalie,

All Religion teaches their believers that if you do good then you'll get Good & if one does bad then they get Beat- NO Diff there but what makes Christinity so different? Food for thought?

What you've quoted in milk & not eating meat, believe it's taken from the Epistle of Hebrew 5:12-13 for which Apostle Paul was writing the the STIFF NECK Jews who kept trying to Establish their OWN Righteousness for MANY are ignorant of the Righteouness from GOD & have not subjected themselves to the GIFT of Righteousness of Christ Romans 10:3, please read the whole context. Therefore ALL Christians setting about on their quest for Self Righteousness have NOT Submitted to the Gift of Righteousness of GOD & are Self RIGHTEOUS ;)

Shall show via Scriptures Interpreting Scriptures how Christ CURSED Self Righteousness & Prophet Isaiah via the Holy Spirit calls Self Righteousness:)

Gen 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.

In Bible Interpretation, there's great significance when something mentioned for the 1st time & in this case, Adam & Eve after they've Listened to the Devil to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of GOOD & Evil to be like GOD when they are already like GOD.

Fig Leaves & Self efforts Typifies Self Righteousness & let's see what Christ did:-

Matt 21:19 And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, "Let no fruit grow on you ever again." Immediately the fig tree withered away.

See how Christ is against Self Righteousness? HE CURSED it & Proclaim that NO FRUIT shall grow- ok let's see what is Fruit?


Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

Eph 5:9 (for the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness, righteousness, and truth),

These are all Fruit of the Spirit & if it's from Christ then it's effortless for He'll put into us the Believers-The Desires & The Wants instead of you shall which is SELF Efforts/ Self Righteousness & Self Edification ( It's the ANTI-Christ for 6 is the Number of Men/ 6 is also the Number of Self Righteousness & 6 is the Number of SELF Edification;) Am seeing so many ANTI Christ & all 666 are fulfilled :doh:)

If still not convinced then how about Prophet Isaiah who wrote via the Holy Spirit a Book filled with prophecies & many of which have come to pass & many still are being fulfilled & the following is 1 which many Christians are fulfilling it :-

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all like an unclean [thing], And all our righteousnesses [are] like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away.

Isn't it interesting that the Scriptures cannot be broken & confirmed by Isaiah that ALL our self righteousness are Filthy RAGS

Best part cos GOD Calls in the Original hebrew, Filthy Rags are actually :-

menstruation stained garment clothing

So effectively the Word of Christo tells us that those who set about establishing their own self righteousness are unskilled in Righteousness & are babes drinking Milk & their Self righteousness are like SOILED Dirty Menstruation Napkins! Best Part, Christ already CURSED their Self Righteousness & enforcing a Double CURSE for for it is written that whosoever does not observe the Law to the FULL Exacting Standards of GOD will be cursed & Christ also CURSED it hence so many Christians around the world are living in Bondage in Proverty/ Financial Lack/ Marriage problems & are sick with so many Diseases + MUCH More :clap:
 
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NatalieJan777;54080481]I agree with this, but do you not agree that we are not all at the same levels of understanding?

yes

The bible speak of babes.
the bible speak of the elect.
the bible speak of the very elect.

They have been led astray and we cannot put a block up in their path by condemning them ourselves.

is the block the truth God's word
or
is the block false doctrine

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

what is this life John speak of that we give our brother when they sin

Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

and
Jn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


If they have true faith and belief in GOD and in Christ Jesus, HE will guide them there.

Sister

you speak like the Lord :) notice the 2 letter word you use IF, you are aware that this small word is used immensely in the bible


John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has no believed in the name of God's one and only Son."

If they believe in Christ Jesus they are not condemned, none of them are denying Christ Jesus. Therefore, I personally must accept that they are not condemned.

you said if which is a big statement. The Lord said whoever believes and whoever does not, it can go either way. correct?

John 3:19-20 "This is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed."

They are still drinking milk and not meat if they do not on their own expose there darkness of evil to the Light which Christ has provided. They have to do this for themselves, another cannot do this for them.

I agree! because it says in many places that we control our salvation.

Phil 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.


[QUOTE] John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through GOD.

The light of Christ Jesus is working in us all, we all are in the same boat and should display the compassion of Christ Jesus to all. It may be hard to do, but this is what we must do.[/QUOTE]

check this out sister and apply it to what we are discussing here.

Rom 1v 18: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19: Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

if we are right we understand

if we are wicked we still understand Because God has shewed the truth to them even as he shewed to to us the righteous.

Is this a fair assessment?

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

You see, they have the testimony and whether they want to believe that whether by the spirit or by the written word is the law, I have to have faith that GOD will bring them to this understanding
.

actually Sister this is the OT(law) and the NT(testimony) we have to both in order to understand God's word and have a complete picture of his works.

Sister

we have churches and ministries who start their teaching in the NT this is the middle of the bible. People don't start reading a book in the middle we start at the beginning. Correct?

how can you have understanding starting in the middle instead of the beginning? How can you have faith in Jesus if you start in the middle and not the front.

lets read something Jesus said

Jn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Sister Nat

what are the scriptures? the books from Genesis to Malachi

there was not a NT when the Lord and the apostles walked the earth being taught by Jesus.

It may be that our gifts are different and this is why we see things differently? We both believe in the same thing, I just believe in a different approach.

then something is wrong because we all read the same bible.

lets read

Jesus and the Father are one

Jn 10:30 I and my Father are one.

we are to be one as they are one

Jn 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:


1Cor 10:17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.

we have different levels of understanding

babe to elect to very elect

yet we all were once babe and we all are trying to get to the very elect.

And there will be many who simply do not listen:

Psalms 55:19 God, who is enthroned forever, will hear them and afflict them--Selah men who never change their ways and have no fear of God.

the ones who don't listen have taken the Lord's name to mean nothing.

Deut 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
 
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the question seems to be asked from a false premise . so i'll ask the question:

1) What does born again mean to you?

2) How can you be born again more than once?

3) What did you mean by your question?


how many times have you been born again?

how many times have you been born of a incorruptible seed?

1Pt 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
 
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how many times have you been born again?

how many times have you been born of a incorruptible seed?

1Pt 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Once .

and you?
 
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Hi Natalie,

All Religion teaches their believers that if you do good then you'll get Good & if one does bad then they get Beat- NO Diff there but what makes Christinity so different? Food for thought?

What you've quoted in milk & not eating meat, believe it's taken from the Epistle of Hebrew 5:12-13 for which Apostle Paul was writing the the STIFF NECK Jews who kept trying to Establish their OWN Righteousness for MANY are ignorant of the Righteouness from GOD & have not subjected themselves to the GIFT of Righteousness of Christ Romans 10:3, please read the whole context. Therefore ALL Christians setting about on their quest for Self Righteousness have NOT Submitted to the Gift of Righteousness of GOD & are Self RIGHTEOUS ;)

Shall show via Scriptures Interpreting Scriptures how Christ CURSED Self Righteousness & Prophet Isaiah via the Holy Spirit calls Self Righteousness:)

Gen 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.

In Bible Interpretation, there's great significance when something mentioned for the 1st time & in this case, Adam & Eve after they've Listened to the Devil to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of GOOD & Evil to be like GOD when they are already like GOD.

Fig Leaves & Self efforts Typifies Self Righteousness & let's see what Christ did:-

Matt 21:19 And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, "Let no fruit grow on you ever again." Immediately the fig tree withered away.

See how Christ is against Self Righteousness? HE CURSED it & Proclaim that NO FRUIT shall grow- ok let's see what is Fruit?


Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

Eph 5:9 (for the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness, righteousness, and truth),

These are all Fruit of the Spirit & if it's from Christ then it's effortless for He'll put into us the Believers-The Desires & The Wants instead of you shall which is SELF Efforts/ Self Righteousness & Self Edification ( It's the ANTI-Christ for 6 is the Number of Men/ 6 is also the Number of Self Righteousness & 6 is the Number of SELF Edification;) Am seeing so many ANTI Christ & all 666 are fulfilled :doh:)

If still not convinced then how about Prophet Isaiah who wrote via the Holy Spirit a Book filled with prophecies & many of which have come to pass & many still are being fulfilled & the following is 1 which many Christians are fulfilling it :-

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all like an unclean [thing], And all our righteousnesses [are] like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away.

Isn't it interesting that the Scriptures cannot be broken & confirmed by Isaiah that ALL our self righteousness are Filthy RAGS

Best part cos GOD Calls in the Original hebrew, Filthy Rags are actually :-

menstruation stained garment clothing

So effectively the Word of Christo tells us that those who set about establishing their own self righteousness are unskilled in Righteousness & are babes drinking Milk & their Self righteousness are like SOILED Dirty Menstruation Napkins! Best Part, Christ already CURSED their Self Righteousness & enforcing a Double CURSE for for it is written that whosoever does not observe the Law to the FULL Exacting Standards of GOD will be cursed & Christ also CURSED it hence so many Christians around the world are living in Bondage in Proverty/ Financial Lack/ Marriage problems & are sick with so many Diseases + MUCH More :clap:

If we follow HIM it is HIS righteousness we are in submission to and not our own.
 
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how many times have you been born again?

how many times have you been born of a incorruptible seed?

1Pt 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.


Ozell, just by posting the verse above, it states the word "incorruptiple". Looking up the definition for this word it basically means never to be dissovled, ever lasting.

Now by posting this verse after you ask the question of "How many times have you been born again?" The use of "incorruptiple" nullifies the guestion. Simply once born again from flesh birth to Spiritual birth, as it states is a done deal, joyful deal.

I search every word you speak for signs of having the Holy Spirit dwelling within you, yet I do not see the fruit. Your words always lead to man doing the work, and not Jesus working inside you.

Can you enlighten us as to why you stay so far from admitting whether you consider yourself Born Again or not.
 
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what is grace? we know it is a unmerited favor, we know we did not work for it, what is grace?
if grace was not spilled out in NT times how did Noah come under it?

lets use some common sense. lets read the book.

Rv 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

when was the lamb slain?

I did? the blood of Jesus covers everyone and all times.

was Noah and all before the NT here before the foundation of the world when the Lamb of God was slain?

why did John say the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world?.

So I am to believe that the Blood of Jesus is capable of covering time past and time forward, I can go along with that.

"the blood of Jesus covers everyone and all times".

Now is this Grace granted for all, including those who do not recieve Jesus as their savior?

Or is this Grace only for those that God has called "Righteous"?
 
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Once .

and you?

I was born once 43 years ago into the family of man

I wait to be born again into the family of God

because I am still man and I am a corruptible seed.

understand this line upon line precept upon precept

1Pt 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

when I am born again of incorruptible seed I will live forever

Jn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

can a corruptible seed see the kingdom of Jesus?

4: Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

this man Nicodemus speak of is of a corruptible seed.

I wait to be raised incorruptible as Paul said

1Cor 15v38: But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39: All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40: There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41: There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42: So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

I wait!
 
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Light hearted;54087390]Ozell, just by posting the verse above, it states the word "incorruptiple". Looking up the definition for this word it basically means never to be dissovled, ever lasting.

Ok

Now by posting this verse after you ask the question of "How many times have you been born again?" The use of "incorruptiple" nullifies the guestion. Simply once born again from flesh birth to Spiritual birth, as it states is a done deal, joyful deal.

when have you been born into a spirtual birth LH?


I search every word you speak for signs of having the Holy Spirit dwelling within you, yet I do not see the fruit. Your words always lead to man doing the work, and not Jesus working inside you.

Is God's word Holy?
Is God's word inside your mind?
Is God's word spirit?
Do God's word require man doing work?

Phil 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

who words is this verse above? God's, Paul or ozell?
what do it say about works and salvation?

could it be Jesus has not given you the spirit of understanding?

maybe its not me and it could be you?:)

Can you enlighten us as to why you stay so far from admitting whether you consider yourself Born Again or not.

I'll let you answer your question concerning me.

1Pt 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

. Your words always lead to man doing the work, and not Jesus working inside you.

according to you I have not the working in Jesus inside of me, so I am a corruptible seed, Hey I'm man.

a person who is born again is a incorruptible seed according to Peter.

are you corruptible or incorruptible?

I'm a corruptible seed until I am raised from the dead born into the family of incorruptibles.
 
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"the blood of Jesus covers everyone and all times".

tell me what happen to all the people that did not make it on the ark?

Grace was around?

Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

why did the Lord had to find grace in Noah?

Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

Now is this Grace granted for all, including those who do not recieve Jesus as their savior?

the bible says

Rv 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

so Jesus blood was here before man was created.

Or is this Grace only for those that God has called "Righteous"?

let me see the righteous would come under the blood of Jesus by doing right.

even though the wicked have the same access to the same blood like in Noah day, they chose not to do right so the Lord did not find grace in them.

Noah was a just and perfect man and he walked with God.

Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Noah walked in the light(Jesus word) and in the spirit(Jesus word)
 
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1Peter

15: But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16: Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
17: And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
18: Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19: But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

again the blood slain from the foundation of the world.

Rv 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

animal sacrifces was not needed if the people had only obeyed.

1Sam 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

the blood of animal did NOT take awy sins.

Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
 
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The dietary laws are still valid

Acts 10:
11: And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13: And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14: But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15: And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

After Jesus death and resurrection Peter never ate anthing unclean or common.
 
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I was born once 43 years ago into the family of man

I wait to be born again into the family of God

because I am still man and I am a corruptible seed.

understand this line upon line precept upon precept

1Pt 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

when I am born again of incorruptible seed I will live forever

Jn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

can a corruptible seed see the kingdom of Jesus?

4: Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

this man Nicodemus speak of is of a corruptible seed.

I wait to be raised incorruptible as Paul said

1Cor 15v38: But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39: All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40: There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41: There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42: So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

I wait!

Okay . keep waiting . but i am experiencing this resurrection power life right now .
 
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The dietary laws are still valid

Acts 10:
11: And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13: And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14: But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15: And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

After Jesus death and resurrection Peter never ate anthing unclean or common.

LOL

try reading the passage in context .

Here Peter was having an argument with God and well . God is right .

do not call common what God has made clean .
 
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Okay . keep waiting . but i am experiencing this resurrection power life right now .

1Pt 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

so you are incorruptible? :holy:
 
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LOL

try reading the passage in context .

Here Peter was having an argument with God and well . God is right .

do not call common what God has made clean .

how ever way you want to read it Michael

Peter said

Acts 10:
14: But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15: And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

After Jesus death and resurrection Peter never ate anthing unclean or common.

is this correct?
 
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why is Peter still keeping the dietary laws after Jesus has died and rose from the grave?

Acts 10:
11: And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13: And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14: But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15: And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
 
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