NatalieJan777;54080481]I agree with this, but do you not agree that we are not all at the same levels of understanding?
yes
The bible speak of babes.
the bible speak of the elect.
the bible speak of the very elect.
They have been led astray and we cannot put a block up in their path by condemning them ourselves.
is the block the truth God's word
or
is the block false doctrine
1Jn 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
what is this life John speak of that we give our brother when they sin
Rom 7:10
And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
and
Jn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and
they are life.
If they have true faith and belief in GOD and in Christ Jesus, HE will guide them there.
Sister
you speak like the Lord

notice the 2 letter word you use
IF, you are aware that this small word is used immensely in the bible
John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has no believed in the name of God's one and only Son."
If they believe in Christ Jesus they are not condemned, none of them are denying Christ Jesus. Therefore, I personally must accept that they are not condemned.
you said if which is a big statement. The Lord said whoever believes and whoever does not, it can go either way. correct?
John 3:19-20 "This is the verdict. Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed."
They are still drinking milk and not meat if they do not on their own expose there darkness of evil to the Light which Christ has provided. They have to do this for themselves, another cannot do this for them.
I agree! because it says in many places that we control our salvation.
Phil 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence,
work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
[QUOTE] John 3:21
But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through GOD.
The light of Christ Jesus is working in us all, we all are in the same boat and should display the compassion of Christ Jesus to all. It may be hard to do, but this is what we must do.[/QUOTE]
check this out sister and apply it to what we are discussing here.
Rom 1v 18:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19:
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them;
for God hath shewed it unto them.
if we are right we understand
if we are wicked we still understand Because God has shewed the truth to them even as he shewed to to us the righteous.
Is this a fair assessment?
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.
You see, they have the testimony and whether they want to believe that whether by the spirit or by the written word is the law, I have to have faith that GOD will bring them to this understanding
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actually Sister this is the OT(law) and the NT(testimony) we have to both in order to understand God's word and have a complete picture of his works.
Sister
we have churches and ministries who start their teaching in the NT this is the middle of the bible. People don't start reading a book in the middle we start at the beginning. Correct?
how can you have understanding starting in the middle instead of the beginning? How can you have faith in Jesus if you start in the middle and not the front.
lets read something Jesus said
Jn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Sister Nat
what are the scriptures? the books from Genesis to Malachi
there was not a NT when the Lord and the apostles walked the earth being taught by Jesus.
It may be that our gifts are different and this is why we see things differently? We both believe in the same thing, I just believe in a different approach.
then something is wrong because we all read the same bible.
lets read
Jesus and the Father are one
Jn 10:30 I and my Father are one.
we are to be one as they are one
Jn 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them;
that they may be one, even as we are one:
1Cor 10:17
For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
we have different levels of understanding
babe to elect to very elect
yet we all were once babe and we all are trying to get to the very elect.
And there will be many who simply do not listen:
Psalms 55:19 God, who is enthroned forever, will hear them and afflict them--Selah men who never change their ways and have no fear of God.
the ones who don't listen have taken the Lord's name to mean nothing.
Deut 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain:
for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.