what Law did Jesus replace?

[NatalieJan777]

Romans 8:11
And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.

1 Corinthians 15:51-54 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."

Revelations 8:13 As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: "Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!"

And this is the last trumpet.

 

[Light hearted]

Lh



this is because you don't understand sin



LH

that wicked man who TURNED from his sin STOP sinning!

of course God is merciful are we not born in sin, even if we sin ignorantly its still sin and the bible say the wages of sin is death.

how many time shall a man who know adultery is wrong continue to commit adultery and think he is getting away with it.

how many time can this man ask forgiveness of this wilfull sin that he continue to commit

lets read

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

since he know that it is wrong and he continue to do it haow many time can he get on his knees and ask forgiveness?

keep in mind to LH this is what he has to look forward to

27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries

because he trodden underfoot the blood of Jesus!

28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Now LH

what law did Jesus replace since you are acknowledging that the commandments are still intact today?

Ozell, we who have been born again, God has sanctified (to declare Holy), we now live in Grace (unmerited favor). Grace is a gift, we didn't earn it. We just learned the truth and God found our hearts humbled, and God did the rest, thanks to Jesus of whom torn the veil from top to bottom, we can now come before God . Of course I shorted the Gospel, you all know the rest.

Ok, with that said go to Hebrews 10:14-18

14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

hmmm, notice it ended saying there is no more offering for sins.

Check out #17 "their sins and iniquities I will remember no more."

(No More. It don't get no better than that.)

This is the promise, the hope, the saving Grace that those of us sanctified by God live by.

I have to ask, not with bad intention... Why don't you ever quote this verse when you print Hebrews 10?


Onward, Hebrews 10:26. First, the audience was the Jews, they have been brought up with animal sacrifice for 100's of years, can you imagine how difficult it would be to get them to turn from their learnings? Yet. the author here is trying to teach them of the knowledge of truth, Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 10:29. Once one has learned the knowledge of truth, and the Holy Spirit comes upon them and stirs they're heart to accept Jesus as their savior, and they refuse to turn Jesus, and desire to continue animal sacrifice, this is the likened to trampling the Son of God under foot. They have insulted the Spirit of Grace.

Hebrews 10:32 Now is the Jews that did hear and accepted Jesus as their savior. The author is thanking them for sticking to the truth of Jesus. Although they were insulted and percecuted they held their ground and kept the faith.

Hebrews 10:38 The rightious ones,(those declared corrcet by devine declaration). There is not much reference after this verse. Could be those who are considering going back to animal sacrifice.

In closing, you are half right, you just never mention those of us under Grace, those of us who live in Faith and have been indwelled with the Holy Spirit no longer have a sacrifice, since a sacrifice would be to atone for sin, Jesus is our sacrifice, since our sin will never be held agaist us, there is no sacrifice left.

Hebrews 10:14 Because by one sacrifice He (Jesus) has made perfect forever (now and into the future) those who are being made Holy.

Hmmmm, being made Holy, kinda makes me think this is an ongoing process. So yes, I shall sin again, Thank God, Jesus is my sacrifice so I my look forward to Jesus work within me. Not looking back at my past sins and how I failed God.

I have to ask again... When you mention "no more sacrice for sin" why don't you direct it to to Joyful side of Jesus work??

Why do you direct it to the side of judgment and fire?

No more sacrifice for sins does show up on both sides, just curious.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Did you not know?

In Revelation 1 it is said the voice sounded like a trumpet .

so perhaps the last trump "with the voice of an archangel" is really Jesus crying out .

 

[Zeena]

The fall of Jerusalem is never even mentioned in Scripture..

Odd, don't you think?

Romans 9:1-5
1I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

 

[ozell]

I love . and that is enough .

Jesus fulfilled the other part and indwells me .

so as far as God is concerned .

As long as i love (His definition)

then i have fulfilled His requirements

I am His son and He is my papa and we like to dance .

bless .

you are his son as long as you continue in his word

and a righteous man who whop once loved can stop loving

Ezek 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

 

[ozell]

Luke 6:35 "But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked."

and what is God's definition of Love?

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

we love our enemies the same way we love our friends.

Lk 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

by keeping the commandments of God is love,

their is no other way to love a person than this!!!

I wont steal from my friend, I wont steal from my enemy. etc

Jms 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

 

[ozell]

Leviticus 19:17-18 Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt. Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against on of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.

if a person steals, kills or have other Gods

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.


Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

eschewed
to abstain or keep away from; shun; avoid: to eschew evil.
Eschewed | Definition of Eschewed at Dictionary.com:

 

[ozell]

All the laws given by Moses.

John 1:17
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

.

who gave them to Moses?

example

lets start with the COMMANDMENTS

1: And God spake all these words, saying,
2: I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6: And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7: Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12: Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13: Thou shalt not kill.
14: Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15: Thou shalt not steal.
16: Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Who gave moses the commandments?

so who commandments are they?

 

[ozell]

All the laws given by Moses.

John 1:17
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

.

lets look at the dietary laws.

example

who Gave Moses the dietary laws?

Lev 11v1: And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2: Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
3: Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4: Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
44: For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
45: For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.
46: This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:
47: To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.

who gave Moses the dietary laws?

 

[ozell]

Light hearted;54068248]Ozell, we who have been born again, God has sanctified (to declare Holy), we now live in Grace (unmerited favor). Grace is a gift, we didn't earn it. We just learned the truth and God found our hearts humbled, and God did the rest, thanks to Jesus of whom torn the veil from top to bottom, we can now come before God . Of course I shorted the Gospel, you all know the rest.

what is grace? is it not the blood of Jesus. if so, then what did Jesus blood replace?

Ok, with that said go to Hebrews 10:14-18

14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

hmmm, notice it ended saying there is no more offering for sins.

who remitted out sins? Jesus,

so if we sin after we know the truth will he offer his blood again?

Check out #17 "their sins and iniquities I will remember no more."

(No More. It don't get no better than that.)

what sins are those? the ones that you committed before you confessed and came into the knowledge of the truth?

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

you say you are born again, so you admit you know the truth, do you still sin since you know the truth? have you wilfully sinned against God since knowing the truth? if so, shall Jesus die for you sins again.

Paul speaks of remission of past sins.

This is the promise, the hope, the saving Grace that those of us sanctified by God live by.

Jesus is the Hope, Jesus blood is grace, Jesus word sanctify us
all this is written

I have to ask, not with bad intention... Why don't you ever quote this verse when you print Hebrews 10?

People know this LH, people know Jesus is the hope and grace
People don't understand sin.

Onward, Hebrews 10:26. First, the audience was the Jews, they have been brought up with animal sacrifice for 100's of years, can you imagine how difficult it would be to get them to turn from their learnings? Yet. the author here is trying to teach them of the knowledge of truth, Jesus Christ.

are you a Jew? what about the other 11 tribes, Hebrews cover more than Jews, the audience is whoever read Hebrews and the entire bible.
Paul is teaching them that animal sacrifice is over with and the Blood of Jesus has replaced it!

Hebrews 10:29. Once one has learned the knowledge of truth, and the Holy Spirit comes upon them and stirs they're heart to accept Jesus as their savior, and they refuse to turn Jesus, and desire to continue animal sacrifice, this is the likened to trampling the Son of God under foot. They have insulted the Spirit of Grace

so Jesus blood Grace is what replaced animal sacrifice?

Hebrews 10:32 Now is the Jews that did hear and accepted Jesus as their savior. The author is thanking them for sticking to the truth of Jesus. Although they were insulted and percecuted they held their ground and kept the faith.

Hebrews 10:38 The rightious ones,(those declared corrcet by devine declaration). There is not much reference after this verse. Could be those who are considering going back to animal sacrifice.

In closing, you are half right, you just never mention those of us under Grace, those of us who live in Faith and have been indwelled with the Holy Spirit no longer have a sacrifice, since a sacrifice would be to atone for sin, Jesus is our sacrifice, since our sin will never be held agaist us, there is no sacrifice left.

I did mention grace? I just did not use the word grace.

Go back and read the topic

what law did Jesus replace?

Jesus replaced the animal sacrifice with what? His blood!

its called understanding!

Hebrews 10:14 Because by one sacrifice He (Jesus) has made perfect forever (now and into the future) those who are being made Holy.

that sacrifice is Jesus blood which is grace.

Hmmmm, being made Holy, kinda makes me think this is an ongoing process. So yes, I shall sin again, Thank God, Jesus is my sacrifice so I my look forward to Jesus work within me. Not looking back at my past sins and how I failed God.

so since you admitted again that you can sin what law did Jesus not replaced? and you admitted that the past sins are forgiven because you said that you can still sin.

I have to ask again... When you mention "no more sacrice for sin" why don't you direct it to to Joyful side of Jesus work??

the people don't understand the wrongful side of sin and no more sacrifice of sin what make you think they would understand the joyful side?

people don't understand that they can wilfully sin? people don't understand that when they sin the Lord cannot die for their present and future sins, if Jesus cannot do this is their more sacrifices for sins?
NO!

Why do you direct it to the side of judgment and fire?

because it is written.

No more sacrifice for sins does show up on both sides, just curious.

Jesus cannot come and die for our sins again so what side does it show up on?

 

[Galatians 2:21]

I just think its sad that ozell is rambling on about all facts about the law, and really not paying attention to arguments people are making. Are we now your enemy for telling you the truth? It's ironic because it's not a very loving thing to do; mostly selfish. It's like you don't want to be wrong or something. The Bible says we should be quick to listen, slow to speak. The reason we have fellowship is to use wisdom of other believers and implement it in our own lives. It would be wise to slow down, take in the information we give you, and allow God to speak to you through us. There are many posts on this thread that have fully covered the reason we follow grace and not the law, yet you continue to persist. I suggest going back to previous posts and considering what people have said.

 

[ozell]

I just think its sad that ozell is rambling on about all facts about the law, and really not paying attention to arguments people are making. Are we now your enemy for telling you the truth? It's ironic because it's not a very loving thing to do; mostly selfish. It's like you don't want to be wrong or something. The Bible says we should be quick to listen, slow to speak. The reason we have fellowship is to use wisdom of other believers and implement it in our own lives. It would be wise to slow down, take in the information we give you, and allow God to speak to you through us. There are many posts on this thread that have fully covered the reason we follow grace and not the law, yet you continue to persist. I suggest going back to previous posts and considering what people have said.

G

I listen, I read and I tried to respond to every post including yours.

the topi is about what law did Jesus replace? it is not about love, everyone here know about love.

if you fell this way I have no problem with it.

everyone here particpated and gave their opinion, interpretation and understanding. They did not disrespect me, nor I them. The topic did well and I appreciate them and including you for participating. we are fellowshipping whether we agree or not.

it is a simple topic which everyone agrees that the blood of Jesus replaced
animal sacrifice, and I tried to keep it to that.

Now you go back and read the topic and you will see that it was a topic where all of us acted chrisitan like.

your words are welcomed on any topic I post whether we agree or not.

peace in Jesus

remember this is not about love this is about the topic

love is required.

this is how I love you

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

have I broken this definition of Love toward you or any here?

peace in Jesus

 

[Galatians 2:21]

You say the topic is not about love, and about the law, but your verse in John says they rely on each other. I totally agree with John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command" But you seem to leave out grace and say that following the law without question is more important. But 1 John 4:10 says "Not that we loved God, but that He first loved us" We litterally cannot love God without recongnising that He loved us before we loved Him. So if loving Him is doing his commands, we cannot do what he commands until we have fully accepted grace and recongnised His love for us, otherwise following the commands will have sinful intentions. We must fully rely on grace (God's sacrifice for us) BEFORE we consider the law. I agree that the law was not replaced, but fulfilled by Jesus' death because it is undenyable proof of God's love and mercy.

Sorry if I came off harsh in the previous post, it just sounds like you are discussing topics already covered, and sending post after post, not giving anybody a chance to respond.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

you are his son as long as you continue in his word

and a righteous man who whop once loved can stop loving

Ezek 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

read the story of the prodigal son .

i am His son because i am born again .

and nothing can make me unborn again .

bless .

 

[gideon army]

I just think its sad that ozell is rambling on about all facts about the law, and really not paying attention to arguments people are making. Are we now your enemy for telling you the truth? It's ironic because it's not a very loving thing to do; mostly selfish. It's like you don't want to be wrong or something. The Bible says we should be quick to listen, slow to speak. The reason we have fellowship is to use wisdom of other believers and implement it in our own lives. It would be wise to slow down, take in the information we give you, and allow God to speak to you through us. There are many posts on this thread that have fully covered the reason we follow grace and not the law, yet you continue to persist. I suggest going back to previous posts and considering what people have said.

I for 1 second & third that many times over

it just sounds like you are discussing topics already covered, and sending post after post, not giving anybody a chance to respond.

Galatians, notice not many are actively engage in 'fellowship' with above mention person?

Not only are questions kept being asked when it's clearly answered many a times, if you read person in question posts properly & slowly, it's very Bizarre & self conflicting with all over the place quotes which are messy at best till i'm to respond directly or indirectly which Scripturally noted:-

Proverbs 9:7 "He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself, And he who rebukes a wicked [man only] harms himself.

& Something i've learned:-

Proverbs 9:8 Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise [man], and he will love you.

Jesus came to give us HIS GOOD News (Gospel) Yet they put Him on the Cross hence they'll be many who can't seem to (1) Understand (2) Accept (3) Leprosy of the Mind-Head/ False Doctrine

Even Jesus warned us & it's as follows:-

Luke 7:31 And the Lord said,"To what then shall I liken the men of this generation, and what are they like?

Luke 7:32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another, saying: 'We played the flute for you, And you did not dance; We mourned to you, And you did not weep.'

Luke 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.'

Luke 7:34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, 'Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!'

Either way you can please the 'children' of this world right?

Luke 7:35 But wisdom is justified by all her children."

Isn't the above verse a clincher? Or Lack of Wisdom

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I believe Jesus was speaking of the Proverbs 8 Wisdom in Luke 7:35 .

bless .

 

[gideon army]

I'll get to your post after you answer two questions brother;
1) Do you have FLESH to contend with?

Thank you Zeena Sister for your attached sermon, to answer you then please listen to the following Pastor Joseph Prince (Preaching in TBN- many Pastors wants to be aired but waiting time is years but the senior management of TBN asked Pastor Prince to have His sermon aired / Daystar & many more channel) plus that small little fact that Pastor Prince preaches to PASTORS fm all over the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQCPU6l_KSU&NR=1

& also :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCUby8b1zl4&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10lue7bhcK0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYoXwPQDYoY&feature=related

Shalom

 

[Zeena]

Thank you Zeena Sister for your attached sermon, to answer you then please listen to the following Pastor Joseph Prince (Preaching in TBN- many Pastors wants to be aired but waiting time is years but the senior management of TBN asked Pastor Prince to have His sermon aired / Daystar & many more channel) plus that small little fact that Pastor Prince preaches to PASTORS fm all over the world

Shalom

That's nearly 40 minutes of television!-LOL!

The only reason I posted that [four MINUTE] 'sermon' is to show you that I am in no way heaping condemnation on the Saints.

I'm not implying the Saints should ask GOD for forgiveness (though if you sin against a person it IS warranted, at LEAST for their sakes). For forgiveness is already received in Christ.

As you can see, I'm not trying to speak with you through another man-lol

I'm RIGHT HERE, you're RIGHT HERE.

Can you not answer my question in your own words?

Is THIS man going to answer the question FOR you?

Even if he would, I would much rather speak with you personally.
Was it not you who I was holding a conversation with in the FIRST place? LOL!

Please?

A simple yes or no answer will suffice-lol
It doesn't take 40 minutes of talking to say yes or no!

Do you have flesh, brother?

 

[Zeena]

you are his son as long as you continue in his word

and a righteous man who whop once loved can stop loving

Ezek 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

You cannot change your BIRTH Ozell-lol

You are your Fathers son no matter where you go, no matter what you do.. You might try and distance yourself from Him, but He never distances Himself from you. If you sin, your perecpetion of His conscious presence is witholden from you, so that you cannot see Him.. But He's still there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anseOj33vss

 

[NatalieJan777]

if a person steals, kills or have other Gods

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.


Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

eschewed
to abstain or keep away from; shun; avoid: to eschew evil.
Eschewed | Definition of Eschewed at Dictionary.com:

It says to rebuke your neighbor frankly. And Jesus says:

Matthew 18:15 "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over."

He does not say beat them over the head with the Word of GOD.

Galatians 6:1-2 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.

This temptation Paul is speaking of is doing so without love. This is why we are to restore him/her gently.

The other temptation is this:

Galatians 6:3-5 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else, for each one should carry his own load.

We all know that GOD cannot be mocked and that we will reap what we sow.

I am zealous for the Law as you are, but I can tell you that the Holy Spirit will not lead anyone to go aganst the commandments of GOD. So if the Spirit that endwells us endwells all believers in Christ, we cannot judge them from the standpoint of our own knowledge. But we can trust that GOD will lead them where he chooses them to go.

Your reference to Job a conclusion was drawn in the end, and it was this:

Job 41:34 "He looks down on all that are haughty; he is king over all that are proud."

Job 42:1-6 Then Job replied to the Lord: "I know that you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted. You asked, 'Who is this that obscures my counsel without knowledge?' Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know. You said, 'Listen now, and I will speak; I will question you, and you shall answer me'. My ears heard of you but now my eyes have seen you. Therefore I despise myself, and repent in dust and ashes."