philadelphos
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- Jun 20, 2019
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The plain and simple truth is that God exists. God is as obvious as gravity.
I repeat: "Insufficient, for or against". I merely demonstrate that your line of reasoning is equivalent to that of an atheist, kantian, hegellian, etc. In fact, gnostics use the same reasoning, and literally exchange 'truth for a lie' by replacing the characters of the Bible.
"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." (Jas 2:19)
Whereas 'belief in Christ' is not a mere nominal claim ('God exists therefore...'), it is experiential and living/spiritual as well as physical/intellectual. It remains true even if we have no words for it. Hence Paul is able to reason with Greeks in a public forum. Moses could demonstrate 10 plagues publicly to the Egyptians. Not to say that performing '10 plagues' is a mandatory pre-requisite to faith, but true faith must have true 'works' in some way shape or form, according to promises/blessings/curses written in Scripture. Merely saying 'God exist therefore XYZ' or 'ofc God exists therefore XYZ' is corruptible/deceptive/duplicitous and is the reasoning of 'the natural man'; it can be 'studied' by training, and is not 'supernatural' like the experience of Abraham and the birth of Isaac etc. You see?
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Cor 2:14)
In Geneva, Calvin hung bodies of anabaptists from cages outside of St. Pierre Cathedral. How can a congregation tolerate that? Would that be acceptable at your place of worship? Many components of Calvinism and Calvinist reasoning is ofc antiquated and superstitious.
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