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Thank you, this is extremely helpful!In the first eight chapters or Romans, the apostle Paul makes man’s need and God’s gracious provision through Christ abundantly clear. Paul ends chapter 8 on a high note in reflection of the endless, inseparable love God has for those who are in an abiding, relationship with Him (Romans 8:9-28).
In chapters 9-11 of Romans, Paul shifts focus to his anguish over Israel.
I invite you now to the summary commentary of Romans 9 by Leighton Flowers - drum roll please
Line by Line through Romans 9
Strawman. . .which alters nothing regarding the spiritual impotence of unregenerate man.
And reading books differs from reading pamphlets, talking to preachers and believers, how? . . .except that preachers and believers are not a printed page?
And in its primary aspect, what does it say?Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?”
What that says in one aspect. Stop telling God what to do concerning other people's lives. Only He knows all things involved.
Poor Paul. . .thinking like a Calvinist in Romans 9:19. . .tsk, tsk, tsk.And, there is the - "Why does God blame us?" (Romans 9:19) crowd?
They were thinking like Calvinists!
Sovereignty is everything to them
and God can not be resisted. Paul was against such thinking.
Thanks for elaborating brother !I never believed in irresistible grace. I would say I had a semi-irristable grace view. I believed the elect will always choose Christ and I had concluded limited atonement based on what the bible says about the elect. I also was uncomfortably aware that the scripture appeared to teach OSAS if you were of the elect which raises issues about sinning.
At the time I was coming out of a works for salvation Pentecostal mindset that I had failed at. I became a confused combination of several different denominational theologies. I even have Catholocism in my background.
I didn't learn theology by going to school and reading books. I learned it by visiting churches, reading pamphlets, talking to preachers, talking to believers, and worshipping God with them.
Wrong Calvin was a student of Augustine and quoted him 100’s of times in his works . You appear to be a revisionist .Wrong. . .one understands the plain word of God, only to discover they are not the only one who understands it that way. . .Calvin, et al, also do.
Wrong. . .one understands the plain word of God, only to discover they are not the only one who understands it that way. . .Calvin, et al, also do.
"Calvin, et all" includes Augustine.Wrong Calvin was a student of Augustine and quoted him 100’s of times in his works . You appear to be a revisionist .
Balance in The Holy Spirit! This is what we need. Great information. Thank you!Here is a humble and wise young man who I agree with on this podcast - especially his view of predestination and simple free will (i.e. not a free will definition that requires advanced training to understand {which should itself be a red flag}). I find this podcast especially refreshing. It is on topic because he addresses problems in Calvinism, but does not condemn Calvinists. I find it constructive. For those throwing darts, think twice by keeping in mind that Jesus's warning in Matthew 7:2 applies to you!
Be blessed!
I appreciate your opinions about the scripture but as for what they actually present I will rely on The Holy Spirit.I'm not seeking answers. . .
I'm examining the Scriptures, demonstrating what they actually present.
And in its primary aspect, what does it say?
Poor Paul. . .thinking like a Calvinist in Romans 9:19. . .tsk, tsk, tsk.
I rest my case.
Q.E.D.
Try not to let her problem become your problem : )You do not understand how grace works in bringing people to salvation.
My problem is... you are determined to resist. Where is the grace?
Try not to let her problem become your problem : )
However, God does not provide only the Holy Spirit for his church.I appreciate your opinions about the scripture but as
for what they actually present I will rely on The Holy Spirit.
Show where I have said grace is irresistible.You do not know what grace is. Irresistible grace is a false doctrine.
Show us using Scripture how grace is irresistible.
And in its primary aspect, what does it say?
Poor Paul. . .thinking like a Calvinist in Romans 9:19. . .tsk, tsk, tsk.
I rest my case.
Q.E.D.
You say it is "Calvinists" who reject the sovereignty of God stated in Romans 9:18?Paul was simply quoting their thinking. Not agreeing with it.
One of you will say to me:
“Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?”
But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
They were trying to say they were not to blame because no one can resist God's will. That was a lie.
Yes it is an avenue God provides to everyone who is willing, otherwise there would be no point to evangelism or loving others. Everything would be a farce.By the grace of God it will not happen, if I am walking in grace.
Grace is God's enabling of a person who is too weak naturally to be able to consider doing what is the right thing to do.
Grace in enabling action can surprise us.
I appreciate your opinions about the scripture but as for what they actually present I will rely on The Holy Spirit.
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