What "is" time...?

[Anguspure]

What "is" time...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

Havn't read through the thread so this may already have been pointed to, but the theory I am thinking about at the moment is that Time is the observation of cause and effect.

If there was a single string of cause and effect followed by cause and effect taking place in a staccato fashion we would observe time at the rate of the cause and effect process in a digital fashion. Thus time would not pass as such rather it would only be observed in the discreet observation of the individual event.

As it is we are surrounded by many billions of simulteaneous cause and effect relationships most of which occur at the subatomic level and so our observation of time appears to be smooth and uninterrupted, and time appears to be almost an independant dimension.

 

[Divide]

I personally believe there are more than 4 dimensions

God created all things with the appearance of age. (Truly as Edison Trent reminded above...chicken before egg).

Here's a thought: what if time only exists where mankind is/goes?

They say that mathematically up to 11 dimensions are proven to exist...

Now for you guys who will certainly take me to task for saying that and ask me for all sorts of documentation and wotnot, I am not saying that this is true, I am saying that I have heard that 11 dimensions can be proven mathematically, and no I don't know the math, or have any formulas, or any peer reviewed articles or anything. Just something I heard, ok?

 

[Radagast]

They say that mathematically up to 11 dimensions are proven to exist...

No. It's an unproven hypothesis.

 

[Divide]

No. It's an unproven hypothesis.

Yep. I haven't seen the math on it so I agree with your assessment.

 

[Anguspure]

They say that mathematically up to 11 dimensions are proven to exist...

Now for you guys who will certainly take me to task for saying that and ask me for all sorts of documentation and wotnot, I am not saying that this is true, I am saying that I have heard that 11 dimensions can be proven mathematically, and no I don't know the math, or have any formulas, or any peer reviewed articles or anything. Just something I heard, ok?

Here's a Visual Guide to the 10 Dimensions of Reality

This is interesting: The Human Brain Can Create Structures in Up to 11 Dimensions
If many dimensions are analogues to many heavens and so moving between dimensions or operating in other dimensions is analogous to moving or being spiritual, then this article indicates observed spirituality in the brain.

 

[loveofourlord]

as others have said, time is just movement, I personally don't think time actually exists, and is just a byproduct of how our brains work, we percieve time because we remember the movements of objects, our brain acumulates memories of those movements giving the illusion that there was a past, rather then mater moving around.

 

[Divide]

Here's a Visual Guide to the 10 Dimensions of Reality

This is interesting: The Human Brain Can Create Structures in Up to 11 Dimensions
If many dimensions are analogues to many heavens and so moving between dimensions or operating in other dimensions is analogous to moving or being spiritual, then this article indicates observed spirituality in the brain.

Yeppers. That's the flip side of this coin. It may or may not be proven mathamaticlly but either way, all signs point to...there's more to this world than we can see.

People can nay say it all they want to, and still, million, perhaps billions of people do discern more being here. I do myself. So the fact remains that it a high probability that a spiritual realm and perhaps more realms exist in parallel with our own natural realm.

It runs a wide spectrum of believable. Some see and report ghosts, others Angels or demons, some claim contact with other worldly beings and channel them, many have suggested that the UFO phenomenon is not interstellar, but hyper-dimensional. To me, that's believable because we don't get reports of then spotting UFO's wayy out in space coming this way. ALl of the reports are of UFO's right around the planet, close in. Many say they seem to just disappear or shrink away, which suggests hyper-dimensional rather than interstellar travel. They blink in and out of our dimension.

The Kingdom of God is in another dimension. That is how the kingdom can be "at hand' like scripture says, and yet unseeable to the natural eye.

 

[Edison Trent]

as others have said, time is just movement, I personally don't think time actually exists, and is just a byproduct of how our brains work, we percieve time because we remember the movements of objects, our brain acumulates memories of those movements giving the illusion that there was a past, rather then mater moving around.

Movement has a time stamped to it, nothing moves unless there is available method to determine the time rate it travels, even your thought process is timed in how long it takes for you to think that might be in milliseconds but nonetheless timed.

 

[Edison Trent]

Genesis 1:1 such a intersting verse speaking upon three time zones at once, universe, galaxy, solar system.

 

[loveofourlord]

Movement has a time stamped to it, nothing moves unless there is available method to determine the time rate it travels, even your thought process is timed in how long it takes for you to think that might be in milliseconds but nonetheless timed.

thats doesn't even make sense. There is always movement the hands going around the clock happen whether there is time or not, we just call a certain amount of movement time, wether it's 1 second, 1 hour. The hands on a clock are just moving in 3d space, we just have the illusion of time because we acumulate memories of previous movements. 1 hour hasn't passed, the hands of the clock have moved enough for the minute hand to go around once.

You've got it all backwards, time is the label we put on things, there is no dimension of time, it's just a artifact of how our brains work that have errently created this concept of time. It's a useful thing in shorthand, but in the greater picture it's created a flawed assumption.

 

[Neogaia777]

thats doesn't even make sense. There is always movement the hands going around the clock happen whether there is time or not, we just call a certain amount of movement time, wether it's 1 second, 1 hour. The hands on a clock are just moving in 3d space, we just have the illusion of time because we acumulate memories of previous movements. 1 hour hasn't passed, the hands of the clock have moved enough for the minute hand to go around once.

You've got it all backwards, time is the label we put on things, there is no dimension of time, it's just a artifact of how our brains work that have errently created this concept of time. It's a useful thing in shorthand, but in the greater picture it's created a flawed assumption.

How does time work in the next life...?

 

[Divide]

thats doesn't even make sense. There is always movement the hands going around the clock happen whether there is time or not, we just call a certain amount of movement time, wether it's 1 second, 1 hour. The hands on a clock are just moving in 3d space, we just have the illusion of time because we acumulate memories of previous movements. 1 hour hasn't passed, the hands of the clock have moved enough for the minute hand to go around once.

You've got it all backwards, time is the label we put on things, there is no dimension of time, it's just a artifact of how our brains work that have errently created this concept of time. It's a useful thing in shorthand, but in the greater picture it's created a flawed assumption.

I heard a Pastor give an illustration of it one time which made a lot of sense to me. He said imagine that this entire room that we're in is the vastness of eternity. Then he held up a water bottle and said now see this as our natural dimension with all of it's universes and planets and so forth. Including time. So at one end of the bottle (inside of it) was the beginning of time for us and our universe. God is outside of this in the vastness of eternity able to see inside to us, even to the beginning and to the end. Yet we can see out. (unless he permits us to). This would allow him to say, grab John and take him outside and forward to see the things which are to come, and then take him back, and so forth. The kingdom of heaven is at hand, all around us. We just can't perceive it until such time as we grow spiritually enough that our beings are promoted so to speak to have eyes that see and ears that hear.

Does that make sense to you? It did to me. It puts God in the position of being far above us yet here and all around us at once. Like being in a helicopter so high that He can see both ends of a Parade going by, the beginning and the end of it at the same time. While we are down at street level watching the progression (of time) go by.

How does time work in the next life...?

That's a good question that I have asked myself. The reality of it is that there will be no time for us. We can make analogies about it and that's about it for now, lol. When I go through trials and difficulties I like to remind myself that, in 200K years when we're in heaven and all settled in and doing our thing in the next life...we'll look back at these times in our life and laugh...growing pains, Lol! Like little children who have a difficulty and make a big woe is me out of it. And it's something simple. That's us! Lol

 

[Edison Trent]

thats doesn't even make sense. There is always movement the hands going around the clock happen whether there is time or not, we just call a certain amount of movement time, wether it's 1 second, 1 hour. The hands on a clock are just moving in 3d space, we just have the illusion of time because we acumulate memories of previous movements. 1 hour hasn't passed, the hands of the clock have moved enough for the minute hand to go around once.

You've got it all backwards, time is the label we put on things, there is no dimension of time, it's just a artifact of how our brains work that have errently created this concept of time. It's a useful thing in shorthand, but in the greater picture it's created a flawed assumption.

Time is not real huh then you don't believe in the bible as speaking about time and teaching about time. There is no illusions about time, it was created by God, the physical universe is nothing but a huge clock with many clocks with in it. Your life has a length of time and so does mine our lives are not timed to begin and end at the same time.

 

[durangodawood]

as others have said, time is just movement, I personally don't think time actually exists, and is just a byproduct of how our brains work, we percieve time because we remember the movements of objects, our brain acumulates memories of those movements giving the illusion that there was a past, rather then mater moving around.

By that same token, we can say space doesnt exist. How much sense would that make?

 

[Edison Trent]

By that same token, we can say space doesnt exist. How much sense would that make?

would makes sense in a twilight zone episode.

 

[Divide]

Time is real for us. And we don't have much time left!

 

[Divide]

thats doesn't even make sense. There is always movement the hands going around the clock happen whether there is time or not, we just call a certain amount of movement time, wether it's 1 second, 1 hour. The hands on a clock are just moving in 3d space, we just have the illusion of time because we acumulate memories of previous movements. 1 hour hasn't passed, the hands of the clock have moved enough for the minute hand to go around once.

You've got it all backwards, time is the label we put on things, there is no dimension of time, it's just a artifact of how our brains work that have errently created this concept of time. It's a useful thing in shorthand, but in the greater picture it's created a flawed assumption.

Well...it sounds like that you are speaking and think eternally, which is as it should be, since we were created spirit-beings and merely lost our identity in the fall in the Garden of Eden.

 

[Michael]

What "is" time...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

I'd say that it's a concept that allows us to describe and measure the movement of mass/energy.