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What is the weirdest "Christian" doctrine you have ever personally encountered?
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Frogster
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exactly, no one is saying get drunk, but you're right, to be able to get drunk, it was alcohol. The people that judge one for having a glass of wine, always try the old argument, that "it had no alcohol", but your verse, and more that I could post, prove them wrong.
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Alcohol is proven by medical science to be a carcinogen, which is a known cancer causing agent... so Jesus did not put poison in His Body, and if He did this makes Him a sinner!
You were not there to take chemical composition of what He drank when He walked the earth so you cannot prove He put things in His Body that would damage it. "Good wine" back then was considered to be freshly produced grape juice... which they called "wine", the fruit of the vine.
Jesus understood, apparently better than you fellas, that the Body is the temple of the Holy Ghost and we should glorify God in our Body and present our Body as a living sacrifice... all of which Jesus did, so He could not have drank poison.
So, what's next... smoking just a little weed for Jesus? Snortin just a little coke for Jesus? Putting harmful substances in the Body is of satan, not of the Living God.
But... don't let me cramps yo styles... drink up
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Alcohol is proven by medical science to be a carcinogen, which is a known cancer causing agent... so Jesus did not put poison in His Body, and if He did this makes Him a sinner!
You were not there to take chemical composition of what He drank when He walked the earth so you cannot prove He put things in His Body that would damage it. "Good wine" back then was considered to be freshly produced grape juice... which they called "wine", the fruit of the vine.
Jesus understood, apparently better than you fellas, that the Body is the temple of the Holy Ghost and we should glorify God in our Body and present our Body as a living sacrifice... all of which Jesus did, so He could not have drank poison.
So, what's next... smoking just a little weed for Jesus? Snortin just a little coke for Jesus? Putting harmful substances in the Body is of satan, not of the Living God.
But... don't let me cramps yo styles... drink up
you're not answering, show me where it is sin to have a glass of wine, as you violate Col 2:16.
Was paul telling Tim to sin, did Jesus and Paul sin? They sipped, you saw the text...
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Actually I have heard that scientist have come up with the discovery that a little (real) wine is good for the stomachs sake.
Wow how about that !!
Wow how about that !!
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Already did, and you favor drinking poison... so, drink up
gimmie text....
Then you're saying jesus, paul and tim sinned because they had a glass of winse, and what about col 2:16, and judging about wine?
you're not rebutting, you are just sort of.......
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No, portions of the grape are good for you... which you can get by drinking organic grape juice.
You can also take a supplement called "Reservatrol Grape Seed & Red Wine Extract" to get that nourishment in your temple... which is good for nourishing the heart.
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gimmie text....
Then you're saying jesus, paul and tim sinned because they had a glass of winse, and what about col 2:16, and judging about wine?
you're not rebutting, you are just sort of.......
Go back and read what I already wrote... I have already given you all the information you need to see and understand that alcohol is poison and it damages the body.
If you wanna believe Jesus would put poison in His Body against the will of His Father... which would be a sin ... be my guest
If you are going to play this game then... PROVE that Jesus drank alcoholic wine and not pure, fresh grape juice!
Let's see your lab report on the sample that you went back in time on yo time machines and collected out of Jesus' glass before He took a drink... go ahead, post it!
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ICOCguy
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We were once challenged in a bible class regarding alcohol to answer this question.
Are these both the,same.
1. The man who drinks 5 beers a day after work
2. Tbe little old lady who has drunk 1 glass of Sherry after church for the last 20 years.
Both are. As both are habitual.
Are these both the,same.
1. The man who drinks 5 beers a day after work
2. Tbe little old lady who has drunk 1 glass of Sherry after church for the last 20 years.
Both are. As both are habitual.
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Go back and read what I already wrote... I have already given you all the information you need to see and understand that alcohol is poison and it damages the body.
If you wanna believe Jesus would put poison in His Body against the will of His Father... which would be a sin ... be my guest
you did not, you just splattered verses about drunk, but you are not debating well, because you leave us with the presumption, that Jesus sinned!
why would paul say col 2:16? bro, this is where the rubber hits the road, splattering, and calling people drunkards won't work well....
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PROVE that Jesus drank alcoholic wine and not pure, fresh grape juice!
Let's see your lab report on the sample that you went back in time on yo time machines and collected out of Jesus' glass before He took a drink... go ahead, post it!
Let's see your lab report on the sample that you went back in time on yo time machines and collected out of Jesus' glass before He took a drink... go ahead, post it!
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Another one:
That all believers will be 'like-minded' with one another on every issue.
That all believers will be 'like-minded' with one another on every issue.
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Well, if you try to be like minded with that Frogster guy... it makes people around you jumpy
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Since I know these are occultic practices and I don't fit your definition, then that would mean you would be wrong. Thanks for your opinion though.
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I apologise on picking on the weird doctrine that you happen to believe in. Perhaps you would like to start a thread on it.
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beacuse the BEST WINE, saved for last, would have alcohol...
why would they call him a drunkard, if Jesus was not drinking an alcohol product?
besides, the burden of grape juice is on you, the rest of creation knows the difference between the 2, and again, the drunk verses show, the wine had alcohol, as messy said, so you gotta prove it, not the frog!
again, you need to understand, a drunkard, vs a believer like Paul or tim, having a glass of wine, and meditate on Col 2:16!
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