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What is the strong delusion God will send in the end time?

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The 7 epistles to 7 churches in Revelation chapters 2-3 were sent to 7 literal, 1st century AD local church congregations in 7 cities in the Roman province of "Asia" (Revelation 1:11) (what's today western Turkey).

Revelation 3:10 meant that the literal, 1st century AD local church congregation in the city of Philadelphia (Revelation 3:7) in the Roman province of "Asia" (Revelation 1:11) would be kept safe from a persecution which came upon all the Roman world during the time of the Roman emperor Domitian. For the apostle John saw his Revelation vision (Revelation 1:1) near the end of Domitian's reign (Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5:30:3c), and Domitian persecuted the church toward the end of his reign. The righteous, literal, 1st century local church congregation in the city of Smyrna (Revelation 2:8) in the Roman province of "Asia" (Revelation 1:11) had to suffer and die in that persecution over a period of 10 literal days (Revelation 2:10).

The 1st century church in Philadelphia didn't have to be taken out of the world to be kept safe from (Greek: "ek") that persecution. For, as Jesus prayed for the church in general: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from (ek) the evil" (John 17:15,20). Also, the 1st century church in Philadelphia didn't have to be removed from time itself or from the earth in order to be kept from the "hour" (or the "time") of that persecution, just as, for example, a student in a classroom who's been excused from taking a test doesn't have to be removed from time itself or from the classroom in order to be excused from that time of testing. For he can be made to sit at his desk reading during that time, which won't be a time of testing for him.

Also, the 1st century persecution of Revelation 3:10 (and Revelation 2:10) was only "world"-wide in the sense of the Roman "world" (cf. Luke 2:1). So the subsequent reference to those on the "earth" in Revelation 3:10 should be understood as those Christians living on the earth during that time in the Roman empire, as opposed to those Christians who'd already died and gone to heaven (cf. 2 Corinthians 5:8, Philippians 1:21,23).
 
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Forgive me for being so silly.. I was reading between the lines again..

Ill try to check myself on that more often..
 
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Bible2 said:
Note that there's no scripture where he can't.
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That would mean:

The wife who divorces a man must stay alone otherwise she commits adultry even when the man remarriages?

If the divorced man remarriages there´s no chance of restoring the first marriage, so he can but it would be better not to remarrige, Mt. 19/6.

What about marriages between unbelievers, is there any difference regarding divorce and remarriage?
 
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ThomasGuthler said in post 225:

That would mean:

The wife who divorces a man must stay alone otherwise she commits adultry even when the man remarriages?
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Yes (1 Corinthians 7:11), so long as he marries a woman who hasn't already had a valid husband who's still alive (Luke 16:18b, Mark 10:12).

ThomasGuthler said in post 225:

If the divorced man remarriages there´s no chance of restoring the first marriage, so he can but it would be better not to remarrige, Mt. 19/6.
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The 1st (if valid) marriage can (and should) be restored (Matthew 19:6).

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What about marriages between unbelievers, is there any difference regarding divorce and remarriage?
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No, for (if the marriages are valid) they're a matter of literal flesh (Matthew 19:6,9), not belief.
 
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AJCServant said in post 226:

Any who would desire to be a disciple of Jesus as the Bereans were - should pray for "understanding" and then "wisdom" concerning 1Timothy 2:4 AND 2Peter 3:9
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Amen.

1 Timothy 2:4,6, like 1 Timothy 4:10b, means God will have all manner of people believe in Jesus and be saved (Revelation 5:9b), not absolutely all people (Romans 9:11-24), just as, for example, John 3:26c means all manner of people came to Jesus during his first-coming earthly ministry, not absolutely all people. The original Greek word (pas, G3956) translated as "all" can simply mean "all manner of" (e.g. Acts 10:12). It doesn't have to mean absolutely all.

1 Timothy 2:4 doesn't mean absolutely all people can believe in Jesus. For other verses show that some people (the nonelect) can't (John 6:65, John 8:42-47, John 10:26, Matthew 13:38-42). Also, 1 Timothy 2:4 doesn't mean absolutely all people will be saved, for other verses show that most people won't be (Matthew 25:41,46, Matthew 13:38-42, Matthew 7:14, Matthew 22:14).

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The elect are those individuals who were chosen (elected) and predestinated by God before the foundation of the world (Ephesians 1:4-11; 2 Thessalonians 2:13), before they were born (Romans 9:11-24), to become initially saved by faith at some point during their lifetime (Acts 13:48b). This initial salvation is possible only because of Jesus' sacrifice (Romans 3:25-26), which was also foreordained by God before the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8; 1 Peter 1:19-20).

Everyone on his own is wholly corrupt (Romans 3:9-12), and so it's impossible for people on their own to ever believe in Jesus and the gospel and be initially saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4, John 20:31; 1 John 5:13) through their own will (Romans 9:16, John 1:13, John 6:65) or their own intellect (1 Corinthians 1:18 to 2:16). Unsaved people can't understand the gospel (1 Corinthians 2:14; 1 Corinthians 1:18) because only initially saved people, who have received the miraculous gift of some measure of God's own Spirit, can understand it (1 Corinthians 2:11-16).

The nonelect can't ever believe in Jesus and the gospel and be initially saved, even when they're shown the truth (John 8:42-47, John 10:26, Matthew 13:38-42), because the ability to believe in Jesus and the gospel comes only to the elect (Acts 13:48b) wholly by God's grace as a miraculous gift from God (Ephesians 2:8, John 6:65; 1 Corinthians 3:5b, Romans 12:3b, Hebrews 12:2) as the elect read (or hear) God's Word the Bible (Romans 10:17, Acts 13:48, Acts 26:22-23), just as the ability to repent comes only as a miraculous gift from God (2 Timothy 2:25, Acts 11:18). Satan blinds the minds of unbelievers so that on their own they can't repent and acknowledge the truth of God's Word (2 Corinthians 4:4; 2 Timothy 2:25-26).

AJCServant said in post 226:

Any who would desire to be a disciple of Jesus as the Bereans were - should pray for "understanding" and then "wisdom" concerning 1Timothy 2:4 AND 2Peter 3:9
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Amen.

2 Peter 3:9b means God isn't willing any of the elect perish, but that all the elect repent. For the "any" and the "all" refer back to the "us" (or "you"), which refers back to the elect (2 Peter 1:10). God is willing that the nonelect perish, for he purposely created them to perish (Romans 9:21-22). The ability to repent comes only as a miraculous gift from God (2 Timothy 2:25, Acts 11:18), and he gives it only to the elect. For he isn't willing the nonelect repent.

For God doesn't love everyone: he hates the nonelect (Romans 9:11-22). During their lifetime, God hardens the nonelect in their sinfulness instead of showing them his mercy (Romans 9:18), because he created them to be vessels of his wrath (Romans 9:20-22, Proverbs 16:4). They were of old ordained to condemnation (Jude 1:4). They were appointed to disobedience (1 Peter 2:8, Acts 2:23). But God never forces them or anyone else to commit sin. He never even tempts anyone to commit sin (James 1:13-15). All people will justly be held accountable for their deeds (Romans 2:6-8), for neither election nor nonelection takes away the free will of people.

God created nonelect people to be vessels of his wrath instead of vessels of his mercy so he might eternally make known his wrath and power (Romans 9:21-22, Proverbs 16:4, Revelation 14:10-11). And God created elect people to be vessels of his mercy so he might eternally make known his mercy, glory, and wisdom (Romans 9:23, Ephesians 3:10, Ephesians 1:8,11).

God wants these aspects of his nature to be made known to both humans and angels (Ephesians 3:10), neither of which group yet knows experientially the full extent of God's qualities and abilities (1 Corinthians 2:9; 1 Peter 1:12b). For example, the full extent of God's wrath won't be known to humans and angels until Satan and his fallen angels and all of unsaved humanity are cast into the eternal suffering of the lake of fire and brimstone (Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Revelation 14:10-11), and saved humans and holy angels go forth from the city of New Jerusalem on the new earth to witness the suffering of the unsaved in the lake of fire (Isaiah 66:24), the eternal hell (Mark 9:45-46), and realize by seeing it not only the extent of God's wrath, but by it, by way of contrast, the extent of God's mercy toward them (Lamentations 3:22-23). Just as "up" can't be eternally known for what it is without the eternal coexistence of "down", so God's mercy can't be eternally known for what it is without the eternal coexistence of his wrath.
 
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Yes (1 Corinthians 7:11), so long as he marries a woman who hasn't already had a valid husband who's still alive (Luke 16:18b, Mark 10:12).
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If the divorced man does not marry again the wife must stay alone all the rest of her life?
If the divorced man remarries a valid wife his first wife can also remarry?

The 1st (if valid) marriage can (and should) be restored (Matthew 19:6).
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So to allow the divorced man to remarry is more a theoretical option, it would be better to stay single and hope for recovery from divorce with his valid first wife.


No, for (if the marriages are valid) they're a matter of literal flesh (Matthew 19:6,9), not belief.
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Pre-marital sex also makes one flesh, where is the difference, is there a difference between one flesh and one spirit? Covenant only by a legal marriage?

This is a reply to your statement about remarriage from another person, any thoughts here?
"1 Corinthians 7:15, lets us know we are not under the bondage of harsh servitude to a spouse that abandons us but V 16 still calls the abandoned spouse a spouse. They are in a covenant until death."
 
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ThomasGuthler said in post 229:

If the divorced man does not marry again the wife must stay alone all the rest of her life?
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Yes, if by "alone" you mean legally unmarried (1 Corinthians 7:11, Luke 16:18b, Mark 10:12). For unmarried people's lives can still be filled with family and friends and fellow believers.

ThomasGuthler said in post 229:

If the divorced man remarries a valid wife his first wife can also remarry?
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If his 1st wife was invalid and had no other, valid (and still living) husband.

ThomasGuthler said in post 229:

So to allow the divorced man to remarry is more a theoretical option, it would be better to stay single and hope for recovery from divorce with his valid first wife.
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Yes (Matthew 19:6).

ThomasGuthler said in post 229:

Pre-marital sex also makes one flesh, where is the difference, is there a difference between one flesh and one spirit?
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What verse are you thinking of with regard to one spirit in relation to marriage?

Also, even pre-marital sex, and even just one time even with a prostitute (i.e. even with someone you're not in a "loving" or "committed" relationship with), indeed results in "one flesh", in one sense (1 Corinthians 6:16), where not God but sin has joined 2 people together physically. This sinful union of fornication can be broken and forgiven by repentance and confession to God (1 John 1:9; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

There's also another sense of "one flesh", the marriage sense (Matthew 19:5), where it's God who joins 2 people together (Matthew 19:6) without any sin being involved (Hebrews 13:4a; 1 Corinthians 7:28). It's because of this God-joined union that divorce and remarriage is adultery under the New Covenant (Matthew 19:3-9).

ThomasGuthler said in post 229:

Covenant only by a legal marriage?
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If you mean legal by a man-made, civil license, it's not required for a God-joined union to be valid.


That's right.

1 Corinthians 7:15 means a believing spouse isn't under the bondage of having to keep together a valid marriage to an unbeliever when the unbeliever is determined to get a divorce. But 1 Corinthians 7:15 doesn't mean a believing wife, after being divorced by an unbelieving, yet valid, husband, can then marry someone else. For if a man marries a woman divorced from a valid husband, he's committing adultery (Luke 16:18b). But the scriptures don't forbid a man divorced from a valid wife to marry a 2nd, single, woman who isn't divorced from a valid husband, as long as it was his 1st wife (whether an unbeliever or believer) who divorced him. But then in God's eyes, he will be married to 2 women at the same time (so long as both remain alive), which, while no scripture requires is a sin in itself, because it's not the best situation, it disqualifies him from taking any leadership positions in the church (1 Timothy 3:2,12), based on the basic idea of 1 Timothy 3:5.
 
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Bible2 said:
If his 1st wife was invalid and had no other, valid (and still living) husband.
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So a woman can divorce from her man but not remarry (until he dies), even when the divorced man marries a 2nd time a single, nondivorced wife?

The divorced man can remarry without commiting the sin of adultry, but when his first wife wants him back he must divorce from his 2nd marriage?

What verse are you thinking of with regard to one spirit in relation to marriage?
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1. Cor. 6/16-17
"What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit"
 
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Even now contactee and Raelien like cults preach antichrist doctrine everywhere on the internet. That's sufficient evidence satan is behind the ufo delusion and will use it to overthrow organized religion.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. (Rev 16:13-14 NKJ)

A common frog species in Egypt's Nile, evidently the frogs John saw in his vision (Rev 16:13)---Ptychadena mascareniensis, widespread in savannas from Sierra Leone eastward through West Africa, and northward to Egypt.

Also known as the Mascarene Rocket Frog because it can fly by expelling a jet of water from its bladder, propelling it forward.

Therefore the symbolism is a Satanic Trinity preaching UFOs and their alien bio-technology. All those abductions with their DNA manipulation had a reason. Its irrelevant if these abductions and alleged experiments actually happened, the belief they did happen is what can become a part of the strong delusion.



The mark of the beast should be evident to all, its something that allows participation in the economy:

17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. (Rev 13:17-18 NKJ)

Therefore its an identification system without which you can't buy and sell. 666 a number computer memory is built around. Whatever the actual "name" is, everyone will know its the "Mark of the Beast" because God warns all who accept it, will be tormented for all eternity.


He would not do that if someone could accept the Mark by mistake. That makes makes it certain the actual number 666 will be used, what better way to ensure all know precisely what they are doing when they accept it?

Hitler is an excellent version of the antichrist. Recall the Reformation began there, he caused a great falling away and replaced it with his own new occult religion. Therefore, we can extrapolate from that event to what will likely occur in the new antichrist religion. The methods will be the same if not the symbols.

Hitler incorporated symbols from other religions to fabricate his new occult pagan religion. For example, the Germans often spoke of "the revealing of the sons of God" to mean themselves as children of the gods.

Given a UFO landing of helpful antichrist preaching aliens would overthrow all organized religion ( 2 Thess 2:4), its mandatory the antichrist use the number 666 in his religious symbols, like the Nazi used the swastika. What better way to indicate times and law have changed completely?

Yes, I'm already on the cutting edge predicting UFO deception will play a major role in the strong delusion of the antichrist. I'm adding to that: The number 666 will be prominently used so no one can accept the mark, without knowing they are joining him against the God of Christianity.


None of this is complicated. There are no UFO aliens, God didn't create life on other planets. Only in heaven, and earth. Angelic, human. That's it.


And when Nephilim appear again, if you are among those wondering if they are "good or bad aliens," you are already suffering the strong delusion and it is likely you won't wake up. If you can't see these things now, why would you then?
 
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The strong delusion means a false belief

The Rapture?

Dispensationalism?

Word of Faith?

Mormonism?

JWs?

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"Strong delusion" are simply for those that don't have an agape for the Truth whenever they bump into it? That is, Truth not so filled with subtle difficult to detect 'errors' today.

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{Entire post can be studied via link given above}
 
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"Strong delusion" are simply for those that don't have an agape for the Truth whenever they bump into it? That is, Truth not so filled with subtle difficult to detect 'errors' today.

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Absolutely, now consider this scene from Star Wars, as an analogy that illustrates this truth. Two Christians wield the sword of truth against Satan and his dual sword of truth mixed with lies. One Christian falls, the other prevails upon destruction of the lies first. Leaving the adversary exposed with only truth to wield, Satan loses.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh4l39Lo194

I thought this made a beautiful if not overly dramatic and cinematic demonstration of this biblical truth.
 
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ThomasGuthler said in post 231:

So a woman can divorce from her man but not remarry (until he dies), even when the divorced man marries a 2nd time a single, nondivorced wife?
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That's right (1 Corinthians 7:11).

ThomasGuthler said in post 231:

The divorced man can remarry without commiting the sin of adultry, but when his first wife wants him back he must divorce from his 2nd marriage?
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Yes to the 1st part, no to the 2nd. He can return to his 1st valid wife without having to divorce the 2nd.

ThomasGuthler said in post 231:

1. Cor. 6/16-17
"What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit"
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How do you relate the one spirit part of this verse to any marriage where the husband isn't the Lord?
 
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The strong delusion means a false belief
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Rather, "a" delusion means a false belief. "The" is another matter.

The Antichrist will have a False Prophet who will work amazing miracles by which people will be deceived (Revelation 13:12-14, Revelation 19:20, cf. Matthew 24:24). And God will send strong delusion on unrepentant people so they will believe "the" lie (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12; in the original Greek there's a "the" before "lie"), which could be the antichrist lie that's been around since the 1st century AD (2 John 1:7; 1 John 4:3; 2 Thessalonians 2:7a) and which in the future will deceive the world into worshipping both Lucifer (Satan) the dragon and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), the man of sin (2 Thessalonians 2:3-9), as God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). The antichrist lie denies Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22), denies Jesus is the human/divine Son of God (1 John 2:22b), and denies Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7), which denial is one of the key doctrines of Gnosticism.

During the Antichrist's future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:4-18), even though the world will worship Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) (Revelation 13:4-8, Revelation 12:9), this won't require that the Antichrist's one-world religion will say Jesus is evil, or will turn the world against Jesus. For almost the entire world reveres Jesus, at least as being a good man. The Antichrist could confirm this basic world belief, but simply (in his words) "clarify" that while Jesus is indeed a good man, he isn't the Christ or the Son of God (1 John 2:22). No doubt the Antichrist will also deny Jesus died on the Cross for our sins, as this, just as believing he's the Christ and the Son of God (John 20:31, John 3:36), is one of the core beliefs of the gospel by which people become saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

So what the Antichrist could do is keep the idea of a good Jesus, but strip it of everything by which Jesus saves people from hell. And this wouldn't require that the Antichrist deny Jesus' 2nd coming. Indeed, the Antichrist and his False Prophet (Revelation 19:20) could even try to employ to their own ends the Biblical prophecy of Jesus' 2nd coming, as well as the Muslim prophecy which says the miracle-working prophet Jesus will return bodily from heaven in the last days to bring the whole earth into the worship of the true God. For the False Prophet could claim that he's Jesus returned. And he could perform amazing miracles (Revelation 13:13) as purported proof of his claim (cf. John 3:2). This is one reason it's important to know when and how the real Jesus' 2nd coming will happen (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8; 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6, Zechariah 14:3-21).

Once the False Prophet by his amazing miracles has brought the world under his spell (Revelation 13:13-18, Revelation 19:20), including many Muslims and Christians who may not care much for scriptural dogma, but could go wild over his signs and wonders, he could begin to (in his words) "restore to the world the real message which was spoken by me (Jesus) at my first coming, and by the great prophet Mohammed, but which message became corrupted by power-hungry men when they copied and changed the early manuscripts of the Bible and the Koran". He could then gradually initiate the world into the Antichrist's Gnostic Luciferianism (1 John 4:3, Revelation 13:4-6), a religion which could have existed since ancient times in some "mystery" cults, and which still exists today in the highest degree of initiation of a worldwide secret society. The False Prophet could present his miraculously calling fire down from heaven (Revelation 13:13) as purported proof that Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) and the Antichrist are the true God (Revelation 13:4-8, Revelation 12:9), in an inversion of how back in Old Testament times, Elijah miraculously called fire down from heaven to prove that YHWH is the true God (1 Kings 18:37-39).

The person whom the Antichrist will revile is YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36), whom many people mistakenly think of as being (in their words) "the God of only the Old Testament, that cruel and hateful God who commanded people to commit genocide and kill babies (1 Samuel 15:3), whereas Jesus came and preached love for everyone (Matthew 5:44)". The truth is that Jesus confirmed that the God of the Old Testament, YHWH (Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Leviticus 19:18), is the same as the God of the New Testament (Mark 12:29-31), and that the Old Testament is true (Matthew 5:17-18, Luke 24:44-48). Jesus died for our sins in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy from YHWH (Isaiah 53; 1 Peter 2:24). And he rose from the dead in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy from YHWH (e.g. Psalms 16:10, Acts 2:31). Jesus died to establish the New Covenant (Matthew 26:28), which YHWH had foretold in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 31:31-34). And Jesus died to bring about the defeat of Satan (Hebrews 2:14), which YHWH had foretold from even the 1st book of the Old Testament (Genesis 3:15).

Nonetheless, building on many people's misconceptions of YHWH as being (in their words) "the cruel God of the Old Testament", no doubt one of the Antichrist's chief blasphemies against YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36) will be that YHWH is an evil god. This is one of the ancient blasphemies of Gnosticism, another being the antichrist lie that Christ isn't in the flesh (2 John 1:7). The world will be deceived into completely rejecting YHWH and worshipping Satan and the Antichrist instead (Revelation 13:4-8, Revelation 12:9). Satan may be worshipped not as "Satan", which most everyone sees as a bad name (it means "Adversary"), but as "Lucifer" (Isaiah 14:12), which means "the morning star". The Antichrist could lie and say it's YHWH who is the true "Satan", the true "Adversary" of mankind.

Because the Antichrist and his False Prophet (possibly masquerading as Jesus) will deny Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22), and will deny Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3), and because they will bring the world into the worship of Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) instead (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9), they could lie and say that (the non-mortal flesh) Lucifer is the Christ, that the new name of Christ (Revelation 3:12c) is "Lucifer Christ". For just as "Lucifer" means "the morning star", so Christ is the morning star (Revelation 22:16b). Also, Christ identified himself with the serpent (John 3:14), and Lucifer is the serpent (Revelation 12:9). Also, Christ said "Ye are gods" (John 10:34), and it was the serpent who said "ye shall be as gods" (Genesis 3:5).

But the truth is that Lucifer fell from his office of morning star (Isaiah 14:12) and became Satan (cf. Luke 10:18). Jesus Christ has taken over the office of morning star (Revelation 22:16). And Jesus Christ identified himself with only the brass serpent on the pole in Numbers 21:8-9 (John 3:14), which typified Jesus Christ's crucifixion for our sins (John 19:16, Matthew 26:28). And in John 10:34, Jesus Christ (John 20:31) was quoting YHWH in Psalms 82:6-7, which shows that even though humans have knowledge of good and evil as gods do (Genesis 3:22), they will still die like humans (Psalms 82:7), contradicting the serpent's lie (Genesis 3:4). Nonetheless, the Antichrist could falsely say Lucifer is the Christ and the true and beneficent God of mankind, and that the False Prophet is the miracle-working prophet Jesus (cf. John 3:2, Acts 3:22-24), returned to point the world to the true Christ/God. The Antichrist could falsely say he (the Antichrist) is the human/divine "Son" of Lucifer, who must be worshipped as God along with Lucifer (Revelation 13:4,8). This would be similar to how Biblical Christians rightly worship the human/divine Jesus Christ (John 1:1,14) as God (the Son) along with God the Father (John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8).

Near the end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, unclean spirits like frogs will come out of the mouths of Lucifer, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet (Revelation 16:13). And these unclean spirits like frogs will go forth and perform amazing miracles to convince the world's armies to gather together at Armageddon (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel) (Revelation 16:16) in an attempt to fight and defeat YHWH himself (Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:19). After gathering together at Armageddon, the armies will travel south and pillage Jerusalem, right before the real Jesus (who is YHWH: John 10:30) returns from heaven and defeats them completely (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:20 to 20:3).
 
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The Rapture?
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The English word "rapture" is derived from the root of the Latin word "rapiemur", which is how the old Latin (Vulgate) translation of the Bible translated the original Greek word (harpazo) translated as "caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. So the "rapture" is the church's being "caught up together" to Jesus at his 2nd coming (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17), which is the same as the church's being "gathered together" to Jesus at his 2nd coming (2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:30-31, John 14:3), which will occur immediately after the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6).

Christians need to be wary of the mistaken idea no rapture will occur at Jesus' 2nd coming. For such an idea could be employed in the future by the Antichrist's False Prophet (of Revelation 19:20, Revelation 13:13-15) to fool some Christians into thinking Jesus' 2nd coming has happened (Matthew 24:23-26) without Jesus having to have raptured (caught up together/gathered together) the church to hold a meeting in the sky with him at his 2nd coming (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:30-31, John 14:3).

At that meeting, Jesus will judge everyone in the church (Psalms 50:3-5, cf. Mark 13:27) by their works (2 Corinthians 5:10, Romans 2:6-8, Luke 12:45-48, Matthew 25:19-30). And then Jesus will marry in the clouds the obedient part of the church (Revelation 19:7-8, Matthew 25:1-12), those in the church (of all times) who "overcame" to the end (Revelation 3:5, Revelation 2:26). They will then mount white horses and come back down from the sky (the first heaven) with Jesus (Revelation 19:14) as he defeats the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") and the world's armies (Revelation 19:15-21). Jesus will then make the marriage supper of Revelation 19:9 for the resurrected and married obedient part of the church in the earthly Jerusalem (Isaiah 25:6-9; 1 Corinthians 15:54). Jesus and the obedient part of the church will then reign on the earth for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29).

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Dispensationalism?
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Futurism per se should be distinguished from dispensationalism. For futurism per se is correct, because the tribulation and 2nd-coming prophecies of Revelation chapters 6 to 19 and Matthew 24 have never been fulfilled. But dispensationalism is mistaken, because it sets up a mutual exclusiveness between the church and Israel, whereas the Bible shows that all genetic Jews in the church remain members of whichever tribe of Israel they were born into (Romans 11:1, Acts 4:36). And all genetic Gentiles in the church have been grafted into Israel (Romans 11:17,24, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29) and so have been grafted into its various tribes (cf. Ezekiel 47:21-23). So the entire church is the 12 tribes of Israel (Revelation 21:9,12; 1 Peter 2:9-10).

This is necessary, for all those in the church are saved only by the New Covenant (Matthew 26:28; 1 Corinthians 11:25; 2 Corinthians 3:6, Hebrews 9:15), made only with Israel (Jeremiah 31:31-34, John 4:22b). John 10:16 refers to the "other sheep" of believers who are Gentiles being brought into "this fold" of Israel, which is the "one fold" of the church (1 Corinthians 12:13, Ephesians 4:4-6, Revelation 21:9,12). A genetic Gentile believer can pray and ask which tribe of Israel he's been grafted into and he will receive an answer from God if he asks in faith (cf. Matthew 21:22) without any wavering (cf. James 1:6-7).

Also, all those in the church, no matter whether they're genetic Jews (Acts 22:3) or genetic Gentiles (Romans 16:4b), have become spiritually-circumcised Jews if they've undergone the spiritual circumcision of water-immersion (burial) baptism into Jesus (Romans 2:29, Philippians 3:3, Colossians 2:11-13).

Also, the book of James was addressing "the twelve tribes" (James 1:1), which was the same as addressing people in the church (James 5:14), people with faith in Christ (James 2:1, James 1:3) (i.e. Christians), people who have been born again (James 1:18, cf. 1 Peter 1:23), who are waiting for Christ to return (James 5:7).

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Also, dispensationalism is mistaken because it teaches a pre-tribulation rapture, whereas the Bible shows that Jesus won't come and gather together (rapture) the church until immediately after the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8). That's why the marriage of the church doesn't happen until Revelation 19:7, in connection with Jesus' 2nd coming and the bodily resurrection of the church at that time (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23,51-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16). Matthew 24:30-31 refers to the same 2nd coming of Jesus and gathering together of the church as 2 Thessalonians 2:1, which refers to the same 2nd coming of Jesus when the catching up together (rapture) of the church will occur (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17).

Jesus won't return and gather together (rapture) the church until sometime after there's a falling away (an apostasy) in the church, and the Antichrist sits in a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem and proclaims himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, Daniel 11:31,36, Revelation 11:1-2, Revelation 13:4-8), and the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the Antichrist) is set up in the holy place (the inner sanctum) of the 3rd Jewish temple (Matthew 24:15-31, Daniel 11:31). For when Jesus returns to gather together (and marry) the church he will destroy the Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2:1,8, Revelation 19:7,20). Before Jesus returns, the church will have to go through the future, literal 3.5 years of the Antichrist's worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4-6, Matthew 24:9-31).

At Jesus' 2nd coming (1 Thessalonians 4:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:30) the church will be resurrected and caught up together/gathered together (raptured) (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:31) not to remove the church from the earth (Proverbs 10:30, John 17:15,20) but to take the church only as high as the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with the returned Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:17).
 
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