Yes, unbelief is the only sin that will not be forgiven at this present time.
If you died and was face to face with Odin. Would it be fair to punish you for all eternity simply for not believing?
He has given us the universe to demonstrate His existence and the Bible to explain why things are the way they are.
"God exists because the bible and universe exists" is a circular argument. It doesn't demonstrate anything. Try again.
The problem is that we do not always live up to our conscience, our consiences are in many ways corrupted by our environment and own sinful desires, and these selfish desires lead us to do things contrary to what is loving.
Yes, in the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can the worst will do the worst they can. Are you capable of being a good person without thinking someone is watching you?
If there is no God, then those who have the power to enforce their will upon the rest of us will continue to do so, and ultimately they will determine right from wrong according to what serves their purposes (as they already do in many countries).
Would you support a Christian theocracy?
Think about the implications of this... why does God not reveal Himself openly yet? Because then those who have not already chosen to love Him would be then forced to either obey Him (always act in others best interest) or be condemned.
Is compulsory love moral? "Obey me or I will condemn you" That isn't the behavior of someone deserving of respect.
God has given us a choice, and it must not- NO, cannot be coerced.
Does an ultimatum remove someone's responsibility? It already is coerced. Believe in me or I will condemn you for all eternity. That doesn't sound like a choice to me. That sounds like a threat.
God, by choosing to create beings with the capacity to love, has put Himself in a dilemma.
What makes you so sure? It sounds like you are projecting and doing mental gymnastics in order to make sense of a brutal, human sacrifice. Why would an omniscient being put themselves in a dilemma? Again....this sounds man made.
So out of His great love for us He devised the substitutionary attonement of an innocent sacrifice on our behalf. It is the only way that God could satisfy His justice without condemning all of mankind.
How could it be the only way if God is omnipotent? You're making it up in your head what you want God to be.
So God came down to earth as himself, to have himself sacrificed to himself to save you from himself. This is incomprehensible nonsense.
Think of it this way... God created beings with the capacity to love freely, but we took that freedom and went our own wicked way down through the centuries, resulting in countless horrors (great and small) that demand justice against every single soul that has ever lived.
Which he knew would happen in the first place since he is omniscient. Therefore, he is ultimately responsible for the horrors. Create you sick, command you to be well. Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense.
He basically punished Himself for creating us in order that we might live eternally with Him in love relationship. That is how much God loves us.
So God is an omniscient being.....He knew that we wouldn't be able to live up to impossible expectations. He knew that it would require himself to punish himself. This comes off as "I love my creation but I know they won't live up to my expectations so this is going to require me to sacrifice myself to myself in the most brutal way imaginable. But this is the only way to show I love them" How does this make any sense to you? This is utter nonsense.
God is three persons in One Being... not the same person. That is what the trinity is, a mystery to us.
The word "trinity" doesn't appear one single time in the bible. This is not a mystery, it is obviously nonsense.
Anyways, God's wrath is only irrational in your mind. Look at the horrors we have been speaking of... really let yourself think about it! All of this stems from selfish rebellion against the loving will of an entirely perfectly good God.
You should really think about what you are saying. I could name several horrors that were caused by religion. We can even look right in the bible.
1 Samuel 15:3 "
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
Would you agree this is a horror? But is it a good thing because God commanded it? If you think so, then you are morally bankrupt. The people who would be committing this would think they are doing good because God commanded it. This is utter insanity. What about the Crusades? The Inquisition, The Holocaust. Hitler's own words "I am doing the work of the Lord" You should evaluate the implications of what you are saying.
There is also some anthropomorphism involved because God cannot be fully described by human language. But His love is real, and so is His wrath. Both are true and right considering the reality of what humanity could be, yet is
Yet, here you are describing what you think God is in great detail.
But your unbelief is enough to separate you from God if you reject His cure for your soul.
How can I reject something that I do not believe exists? Who else tries to say to you are sick but offers a magical cure? Oh yeah....snake oil salesmen.
Your choice... get what you deserve or get mercy and grace.
Any God who has to threaten his creation is not a God worth worshiping.
What does God's voice sound like? Describe it in detail. How can you be sure it is an actual God talking to you or you are just hearing what you want to hear?
I do not hold to the view of total depravity that says humanity is incapable of any good apart from the direct help of God to do so... man is broken, but even a broken watch is right twice a day.
So you can admit you do not need a God in order to be a good person but you need a God because you are not perfect? How does this make any sense? Are you incapable of being responsible for your own actions? I can concede that we're not perfect beings but that doesn't mean we need someone to sacrifice themselves. That is scapegoating. If you wrong someone, do your best to correct that wrong, accept the consequences of your actions and work towards becoming a better person. Are you capable of this? If yes, then you don't need to believe in a God.
God tested Abraham, but never intended for him to complete the sacrifice.
So it's okay to psychologically torture a father and his son just as so long as you don't intend to complete the kill? This is obvious sadistic behavior.
We live in a different time and covenant now, so your question lacks revelance... but yes I would report someone doing as you describe.
Of course you would report someone doing as I described. You can easily recognize that it is morally reprehensible. Why are you going to the "It was a different time" argument? Are you saying that someone saying that God told him to sacrifice his son is perfectly fine because it was a different century? That is like saying that slavery in America was morally fine because it was during a different time. Surely you can recognize what nonsense this type of reasoning is.
It is less a voice that I could describe to you and more like a thought that is not my own... difficult to describe.
How do you determine the thought was not your own? How do you objectively verify this?
That is the type of thing that has happened in my life that cuases me to believe that I have the Holy Spirit leading me when I will listen to Him.
Argument from personal experience fallacy. While that is a nice story, good feelings don't make something true. If I were to tell you I had a personal experience of being abducted by aliens who shared wisdom with me and there was a time when I met someone who had a similar experience and we shared a fellowship, would you believe me? Or would you point out my confirmation bias? What if a Hindu shared a similar story to theirs but their God in this situation would be Krishna, Vishnu, etc? How do you know which one of you is right?
God is not indifferent. Jesus will return at the perfect time.
You're projecting again. God could stop the terrible suffering of innocent children anytime but nope....it continues. 2000 years and still waiting.
To me it is painfully obvious that we will not survive our own evil tendencies unless Someone comes to save us.
That doesn't mean there is someone that will save us. Shouldn't we be proactive in making the world a better place instead of waiting on a savior that likely does not exist?
Christian and be walking after our own sinful desires.
What would you consider a sinful "desire"? That doesn't make much sense to me. Is it really a sin if it doesn't hurt anyone? Again, if you wrong someone, do your best to correct that wrong, accept the consequences and work towards becoming a better person. No God is required for this.
Really? Could you look a loved one in the eyes at this moment and say to them "If you were murdered in cold blood and your murderer goes to heaven and you go to hell, I won't be sad about it at all"? If I was your son and you felt this way, I would never talk to you again.
I know that one day I will stand before my Creator and give an account for the things I have said and done, and this motivates me to live according to His leading.
So you are motivated to live a certain way because you think you know that someone is going to judge you? That is no way to live a life in my opinion. This God is omniscient right? He would already know how he is going to judge you. So, what is the point of giving account to things you have said or done? This is a kangaroo court. What an utter waste of time and an absolute insult to your humanity.
I admit to being uncomfortable with the concept of eternal punishment, but I trust that all will be made clear once I am face to face with my Redeemer.
And if it turned out to be that this God tortures people for eternity, would you show this God any respect?
, but yes I am capable of acts of good. I do not hold to the view of total depravity that says humanity is incapable of any good apart from the direct help of God to do so... man is broken, but even a broken watch is right twice a day.
