What is the Falsification for Abiogenesis and Theory of Evolution?

[Astrid]

Once upon a time it rained a lot where they lived. If you never left your valley and the valley flooded then your whole world was under water.

Hey, that's just a wild guess...but the best explanation would be that it actually happened.

Spend years building a boat bigger than the battleship
Yamato, for that ha.

 

[Astrid]

Sorry Estrid, I didn't answer your last question about being to Hong Kong. Love to go. My friends from China and Hong Kong very generously offered to put me up and show me the sights.

Hope you like it. Too hot in summer for northerners

 

[Bradskii]

Um, I don't think I ever heard of that.

It's an ancient artillary piece on Causeway Bay. Used to be fired every day at noon. As per Noel Coward's ditty. It's accessed via the Excellsior Hotel so I used to hear it quite often being something of a regular at the Dickens Bar in the basement of said hotel back in the day.

In Hong Kong, they strike a gong, and fire off a noonday gun
To reprimand each inmate who's in late

 

[Astrid]

Yes.
The Earth didn't create itself. And it hasn't always existed. Therefore....???
How long creation took can be described in epochs of time - six to be precise.

And a pan-national Flood event is corroborated by multiple extra-biblical sources.
Of course, you can dismiss ALL of these as fabrications if you like. But you'd have to justify your belief for thinking that, and you'd have to offer some hypothesis as to the motive ancient cultures would have for fabricating a lie.

I think the best explanation is that it really happened.

No, I don't have to explain legends, myths, archetypes,
folk tales and all the religions that people ever thought up.
These matters are well studied for those interested in such facets
of human behaviour.
None of that is remotely related to the topic of archaeological
evidence anyway, which is, you know, what I asked about.

On matters of physical evidence-
Flood - believers might be called on to account for the
total lack of evidence for the claimed event, and all
the things that prove it didn't happen.

But that can get awkward as the believers have no
idea of those things, don't tend to want to know.
Plus they find themselves cornered into fabricating lies
to try to deny the facts.

 

[Bertrand Russell White]

It's a variation on Astrid. You guessed meaning wrong.

As for the rest, fuhgeddaboutit.
(I learned that living, in NYC)

I've my own reason for distrust of men, but society
in general is no big help. Luckily I'm in a good position
to take no #%%$@ from anyone.

I have relatives in Vancouver and Toronto, plus other
interests. Might move to Vancouver. We are very fond of
British Empire stuff in HK, bagpipes on Queens way
Sunday A.M. etc.

This is all interesting. I should have guessed your name as I use to work for Astra as a Computer Analyst and Project Manager before it became AstraZeneca, their headquarters at the time was in Sweden and there were lots of people named Astrid.

Sorry about your personal reasons to distrust men and your past. Sounds like you wouldn't put up with any SH-- though. I live near Toronto, only about three hours away, which is nothing in Canada for distance. It is no Hong Kong or London but it is a beautiful modern city. My family was very fond of British Empire stuff too? My grandfather was born in 1885 and was a young Victorian and Edwardian. He got married on Queen Victoria's birthday in 1910 in Toronto. He always joked that he caught a 99 lbs pike on that date. People would come looking for this unusually large freshwater fish (most pike are no bigger than about 20 or 30 lbs.). His wife's name was Pyke.

My family kept a large picture of Queen Victoria in their large Victorian house in their dinning room. Until I was older, I always wondered who this strange looking lady was. The bagpipes would be cool. When I was young, in the 1960's, there were lots of bands and bagpipes in my area which was mostly groups from UK (mostly British, and Scottish with a few Irish).

 

[AV1611VET]

On matters of physical evidence - Flood - believers might be called on to account for the total lack of evidence for the claimed event, and all the things that prove it didn't happen.

Go right ahead.

I'm game.

I could talk about the Flood all day.

 

[Astrid]

It's an ancient artillary piece on Causeway Bay. Used to be fired every day at noon. As per Noel Coward's ditty. It's accessed via the Excellsior Hotel so I used to hear it quite often being something of a regular at the Dickens Bar in the basement of said hotel back in the day.

In Hong Kong, they strike a gong, and fire off a noonday gun
To reprimand each inmate who's in late

Hmm. OK. News to me.

Have to be awful loud to be heard at Repulse Bay

 

[Bertrand Russell White]

Hope you like it. Too hot in summer for northerners

What is the temp?

 

[Lion IRC]

Are you saying that all the flood myths (there are dozens) say that the floods all happened at exactly the same time?

Nope. There were likely oral traditions which arose from the same primary event but which didn't realise that their inherited knowledge of that event came from Noah's descendants.

And it's kinda wierd that if everyone on the planet drowned except Noah and his family...then how do we actually know about the other myths? Who was around to write about them?

Here's a worked example.
Me telling camp-fire story :
"...long long ago there was a huge flood which killed lots and lots of people in this valley." + embellishment + dramatisation + filling in knowledge gaps

My great great great grandfather telling camp-fire story :
"...long long ago there was a huge flood which killed lots and lots of people in this valley." +embellishment + dramatisation

My great great great great great great grandfather telling camp-fire story :
"...long long ago there was a huge flood which killed lots and lots of people in this valley." +embellishment

My great great great great great great great greeeeeeeat...grandfather (whose name I can't remember telling camp-fire story :
"...long long ago there was a huge flood which killed everyone except me and my dad and my two brothers and our wives.

 

[Bertrand Russell White]

Cool. When?

I didn't answer you on this, I don't think. I apologize.

I'm still thinking. Perhaps in about 3 billion years ! I'm pretty slow.

 

[dlamberth]

None of that is remotely related to the topic of archaeological
evidence anyway, which is, you know, what I asked about.

When it comes to the Biblical Flood I tend to go to geological evidence. A person can search high and low all they want, there is simply no geological evidence of a World wide flood.

 

[Lion IRC]

We should investigate further. Let me know what you find out.

OK. I'm back.
I investigated and found that a global flood actually happened.

 

[dlamberth]

Nope. There were likely oral traditions which arose from the same primary event but which didn't realise that their inherited knowledge of that event didn't come from Noah's descendants.

Those stories are not as wide spread as your claiming.

Can you show us any geological proof of said world wide flood?

 

[Astrid]

When it comes to the Biblical Flood I tend to go to geological evidence. A person can search high and low all they want, there is simply no geological evidence of a World wide flood.

Plenty of disproof tho.

 

[Astrid]

OK. I'm back.
I investigated and found that a global flood actually happened.

You sure didn't investigate very hard

 

[Lion IRC]

When it comes to the Biblical Flood I tend to go to geological evidence. A person can search high and low all they want, there is simply no geological evidence of a World wide flood.

What about....

 

[AV1611VET]

... there is simply no geological evidence of a World wide flood.

Unless God removed the waters from off the earth, like He said He did; swept up the coccolithospores into neat piles called "white cliffs;" and ordered the waters off the earth by ordering them to go to a "deportation point", like He said He did, and as they did, they etched serpentine paths in the earth called "meandering rivers."

In short, God cleaned up after Himself.

I'm sure when He removed one of Adam's ribs, He didn't leave a scar behind.

 

[Astrid]

What is the temp?

30, 35? Super humid.
Right now it's nice maybe 15

 

[AV1611VET]

You sure didn't investigate very hard

It's as close as one's bookshelf.

 

[Astrid]

It's an ancient artillary piece on Causeway Bay. Used to be fired every day at noon. As per Noel Coward's ditty. It's accessed via the Excellsior Hotel so I used to hear it quite often being something of a regular at the Dickens Bar in the basement of said hotel back in the day.

In Hong Kong, they strike a gong, and fire off a noonday gun
To reprimand each inmate who's in late

Three pounder Hotchkiss gun, whatever that means. Blue and white.
Weird I never heard of it.