What is the end goal for creationists these days?

[juvenissun]

Selectively force their religion through everybody's throat with the use of taxpayers.

And respect the First Amendement in the process.

Obviously the creationists.

Non-creationists use reasons in trying to stop what Creationists want to do.
No reasoning. Go away, please.
Otherwise, non-creationists start the fight.

 

[PsychoSarah]

oops, double post

 

[Ophiolite]

It was the same sarcasm that you used referring to Christianity as a myth. Christianity is a fact whether you believe it or not, it exists. Even Hinduism is a real religion. Belief in God is a reality, not myth.

I wasn't using sarcasm. I was emphasising that Christianity is not the only religion claiming to be the one true religion.

Of course Chritianity exists. Of course belief in God is a reality, not a myth. I never suggested otherwise. What is questionable is whether or not Christianity has accessed the truth and whether or not there is a God.

You feel you have answered those questions. Good for you. I've considered the questions and arrived at the answer "No", for the first and "I don't know" for the second.

Now, in relation to the OP, have you declared your views yet?

 

[juvenissun]

So maintaining the Free Exercise clause of the Constitution against creationists is bothering them??? Which is better? To avoid bothering creationists? Or to stand up for the religious freedom rights of children of other faiths in the public schools?

Who brought this issue up? Who is trying to stop who?

I answered the question in your OP.

 

[pitabread]

YOU are bothering creationists.

Not I. That would be the supreme Court.

 

[juvenissun]

Not I. That would be the supreme Court.

YOU started it.

 

[Speedwell]

YOU started it.

Creationism is not science. Even if creationists were right about our origins and scientists were wrong, creationism still wouldn't be science. Science employs a different set of epistemological tools than theology. And since the primary purpose of elementary science courses at the high school level is to teach about those tools and how they are used, creationism--theology--doesn't belong there.

That is in addition to the idea of religious freedom. Creationism requires belief that the Bible posesses certain special literary properties (a belief that not even all Christians share). That is theology, and has no place in a classroom made up of students with a variety of theologies, some of them contradictory to creationism

 

[juvenissun]

Creationism is not science. Even if creationists were right about our origins and scientists were wrong, creationism still wouldn't be science. Science employs a different set of epistemological tools than theology. And since the primary purpose of elementary science courses at the high school level is to teach about those tools and how they are used, creationism--theology--doesn't belong there.

That is in addition to the idea of religious freedom. Creationism requires belief that the Bible posesses certain special literary properties (a belief that not even all Christians share). That is theology, and has no place in a classroom made up of students with a variety of theologies, some of them contradictory to creationism

Nobody said Creationism is science. I say Creationism includes science.

Even Creationists said that creationism is science, they have the right to say it. You may say it is not. But you should not stop creationists saying that.

 

[Speedwell]

Nobody said Creationism is science. I say Creationism includes science.

Even Creationists said that creationism is science, they have the right to say it. You may say it is not. But you should not stop creationists saying that.

You can say what you like, call it what you like. But creationism depends on the belief that the creation stories of Genesis are accurate literal history. That is a faith position, not empirically verifiable. It is not science.

 

[Waggles]

What is the end goal for creationists these days?

To have one's name written in the Lamb's Book of Life.
That is not to be on the losing side.

 

[pitabread]

YOU started it.

What are we, five years old now?

"You started it!" "No, you started it!" "No, you started it!" "Mom!"

 

[bhsmte]

Nobody said Creationism is science. I say Creationism includes science.

Even Creationists said that creationism is science, they have the right to say it. You may say it is not. But you should not stop creationists saying that.

Sure, creationists can say as many false things as they like.

 

[juvenissun]

You can say what you like, call it what you like. But creationism depends on the belief that the creation stories of Genesis are accurate literal history. That is a faith position, not empirically verifiable. It is not science.

Same is the Big Bang theory you might have faith upon.

 

[juvenissun]

Sure, creationists can say as many false things as they like.

So are you.

 

[juvenissun]

What are we, five years old now?

"You started it!" "No, you started it!" "No, you started it!" "Mom!"

So, grown up. Leave Creationists alone.

 

[xianghua]

Creationism is not science.

actually evolution isnt science. since there is no way to test it.

 

[Larniavc]

It is all the same myth.

Then you are infact, conflating the two.

Which was my point. That’s like saying the Noachian flood is the cause of Jesus’ sacrifice.

One is not predicated on the other.

What you seem to be saying is that what does not reach concordance with your interpretation of the Bible is wrong: regardless of the specifics of that which you are denying.

 

[Larniavc]

It is violation of a court ruling. Schools are mostly funded thru state and property taxes. (95% in mine)That is local. Classroom time spent on your nonsense fake history in minimal and boring. Nobody cares because it is useless.

I think you need to poke your head out from under the duvet of your corner of America.

 

[Larniavc]

Atheism is frowned upon on some circles.

That may be so in America but over here in the UK it’s fine.

In fact for a lay person to talk at any length about one’s faith is considered bizarre behaviour in normal conversation.

 

[Strathos]

To have one's name written in the Lamb's Book of Life.
That is not to be on the losing side.

You can do that without denying science.