What is the end goal for creationists these days?

[Ophiolite]

@juvenissun. I believe this is the fourth time I have asked you. Do you read the Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek? If you choose not to answer I will report you for trolling and passive-aggressive provocation. The questions is simple. The answer can even be one word - yes, or no.Now please stop your avoiding tactics.

 

[Larniavc]

Is change not enough? If something is not alive, it will cease to change.
So, the earth is alive. It is a life.

By that logic a dead body on fire is alive.

Smh

 

[AV1611VET]

@juvenissun. I believe this is the fourth time I have asked you. Do you read the Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek? If you choose not to answer I will report you for trolling and passive-aggressive provocation. The questions is simple. The answer can even be one word - yes, or no.Now please stop your avoiding tactics.

I believe Juvenissun is into sacred geology. I don't think he's trying to be obtuse.

 

[xianghua]

No and no. לא ולא.

למה לא? הרי אם שינויים קטנים מצטברים לשינויים גדולים- לפי ההגיון האבולוציוני מכונית בהחלט יכולה להפוך למטוס. אלא אם כן ההגיון האבולוציוני לא ממש עובד. ובמקרה שכזה הוא גם לא יעבוד על יצורים חיים

 

[xianghua]

הטענה שלך נכשלת בעברית בדיוק כפי שהיא נכשלת באנגלית.

?להערכתי היא עובדת בשתי השפות. אבל אם אתה אומר מי אני שאחלוק עליך

 

[Subduction Zone]

?להערכתי היא עובדת בשתי השפות. אבל אם אתה אומר מי אני שאחלוק עליך

That is only because you have a rather poor understanding of science and logic. Perhaps you should work on that first before debating. People can help you here so that you do not keep repeating failed arguments.

 

[Subduction Zone]

By that logic a dead body on fire is alive.

Smh

Look on the bright side, he completely eliminates the problem of abiogenesis.

 

[Motherofkittens]

Look on the bright side, he completely eliminates the problem of abiogenesis.

That is what I thought too. But probably they will say "but a rock will always stay a rock kind, etc."

When I first heard them say that "everything is alive and has desires" I did think they were yanking our chains, but apparently It is a real belief. I shouldn't be surprised by any beliefs people have now. But I still occasionally am.

"Say whut?!"

 

[PsychoSarah]

למה לא? הרי אם שינויים קטנים מצטברים לשינויים גדולים- לפי ההגיון האבולוציוני מכונית בהחלט יכולה להפוך למטוס. אלא אם כן ההגיון האבולוציוני לא ממש עובד. ובמקרה שכזה הוא גם לא יעבוד על יצורים חיים

Ugh, why'd you have to make me get Google translate to read this post?

In any case, the idea of airplanes and cars evolving directly conflicts with the theory of evolution, because cars and airplanes are not alive. They don't reproduce and they don't have genetic material. The theory of evolution only applies to real, living things. Your hypothetical "living watch" is an irrelevant thing to mention, for it does not exist.

 

[juvenissun]

I was waiting for it to begin.

Can't do that. You must learn to ask question.

 

[juvenissun]

"the rest"?

Yes. That means all the sciences you know.

 

[juvenissun]

@juvenissun. I believe this is the fourth time I have asked you. Do you read the Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek? If you choose not to answer I will report you for trolling and passive-aggressive provocation. The questions is simple. The answer can even be one word - yes, or no.Now please stop your avoiding tactics.

You can ask again.

 

[juvenissun]

By that logic a dead body on fire is alive.

Smh

May be (?). But only for a while.
We can add restrictions to avoid that conclusion.

I guess in burning, the oxygen does not cause any "internal" reaction to the burning object. Right? So, it does not fit well. (still look down my creation science?)

 

[TLK Valentine]

Can't do that.

Clearly.

You must learn to ask question.

I did ask question. You evaded it.

But if you prefer, I'll ask question again:

What, besides "they change" do you base you proclamation on that rocks are alive?

 

[juvenissun]

What, besides "they change" do you base you proclamation on that rocks are alive?

I do not define what is a life.
I try to match the behavior of rocks with what's said about life. The first one I tried is that a life changes. If you think it is not enough, you may ask for more requirements. I will show you rocks will also match those.

 

[Ophiolite]

You can ask again.

Certainly. Will you please tell me if you do or do not read the Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek?

 

[Ophiolite]

I do not define what is a life.
I try to match the behavior of rocks with what's said about life. The first one I tried is that a life changes. If you think it is not enough, you may ask for more requirements. I will show you rocks will also match those.

Detail the metabolism of rocks, ideally illustrating, with appropriate formulae, how they collect and utilise energy.

 

[juvenissun]

Detail the metabolism of rocks, ideally illustrating, with appropriate formulae, how they collect and utilise energy.

Is that what a student should say?

 

[Ophiolite]

Is that what a student should say?

It's what a teacher of geology would say, or a well informed student. It's what a teacher of geology just said. Now answer the question.

 

[juvenissun]

It's what a teacher of geology would say, or a well informed student. It's what a teacher of geology just said. Now answer the question.

I said, a rock is a life.
Why not?