What is the difference between a Saint and a Sinner?

[Bro.T]

Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath, and the born again are "in Christ".
So, do not pay any more attention to the sabbath day then you would pay attention to the day of Pentecost, or the feast of Trumpets.

The born again are NOT under the LAW...... we are under GRACE.

Do not listen to someone who would try to put you back under the law.

Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.

So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 1:36-38).

And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past. We were all locked under death by Adam’s sin, even the second death. But when Jesus became (he was God in the beginning) man and died for the sins of the world, he gave us access back to the tree of life (himself) which Adam had caused us to lose. That’s what grace is, our free gift our access back to the tree of life but that’s another lesson for another time. So by coming under the blood of Jesus you are saved from your past sins. And if you are saved now, it is on a day to day basis. Because all have sinned, and if you continue to live you will sin again. It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check.

 

[Bro.T]

What you are talking about, does not apply to the Born again.
See, the born again are "not under law, but under Grace".
So, the Law, has been crucified with Christ, on behalf of all the Born again.
This is why the born again are now "UNDER GRACE".
Do you see?
So, dont teach believers what you would teach, unbelievers, as that is not correct theology and not correct regarding being a "new creation in Christ".

Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.

So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts1:36-38).

And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past. We were all locked under death by Adam’s sin, even the second death. But when Jesus became (he was God in the beginning) man and died for the sins of the world, he gave us access back to the tree of life (himself) which Adam had caused us to lose. That’s what grace is, our free gift our access back to the tree of life but that’s another lesson for another time. So by coming under the blood of Jesus you are saved from your past sins. And if you are saved now, it is on a day to day basis. Because all have sinned, and if you continue to live you will sin again. It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check.

 

[Eilat]

So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 1:36-38).
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Receiving the Holy Spirit, is not related to water.
its related to Faith in Christ, that is accepted by God to then Justify you, through your faith.

If you will actually study the "Acts of the Apostles" ( the book of Acts)..... You will read of many water baptisms, and in every single case, the person is SAVED with water baptism.....following.

So, water is subsequent to Salvation, in all cases.
See the reason you are water baptized is BECAUSE you are born again...

Salvation always precedes any water, ...
Just read your bible, Acts.....and you'll discover that SALVATION happened, then water followed.

Water is not Salvation.......baptism is not being born again, unless it SPIRITUAL Baptism, or to be "baptized INTO CHRIST".......not into water.
Be sure you understand this, as you dont want to die having been dunked, but never having been born again.
This really matters.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Why are you talking about the celestial body that the born again, will receive after they are in Heaven?
That has nothing to do with NOW.

Currently, we exist "in Christ", on earth... and this is the REAL us.....

Tell me, are Christ's bones decaying somewhere in the ground right now, or was the body that He showed to St. Thomas the same body that was buried in the tomb?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Bro.T]

Receiving the Holy Spirit, is not related to water.
its related to Faith in Christ, that is accepted by God to then Justify you, through your faith.

Lets take a look in Act 8:35-39 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

"And it came to pass, that, while Apollo was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, he said unto them, Have ye received the Holy ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, "We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.” And he said unto them, "unto what then were ye baptized?" And they said unto John's baptism.

Then Paul said, “John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him who should come after him, that is, Jesus Christ.” When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul had laid hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. And all the men were about twelve." (Acts 19:1-7).

Looks like the process includes a water, faith and repentance. Let's make sure and see, Then Peter said unto them, "repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts1:36-38).

If you will actually study the "Acts of the Apostles" ( the book of Acts)..... You will read of many water baptisms, and in every single case, the person is SAVED with water baptism.....following.

So, water is subsequent to Salvation, in all cases.
See the reason you are water baptized is BECAUSE you are born again...

Salvation always precedes any water, ...
Just read your bible, Acts.....and you'll discover that SALVATION happened, then water followed.

Water is not Salvation.......baptism is not being born again, unless it SPIRITUAL Baptism, or to be "baptized INTO CHRIST".......not into water.
Be sure you understand this, as you dont want to die having been dunked, but never having been born again.
This really matters.

"And he said unto them, go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." (Mark 16:15-16).
Every soul that is baptized honors God and every soul that rejects baptism dishonors God. "And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John.

But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him." (Luke 7:29-30). People, if you are in a position to be baptized, why reject the counsel of God? "For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, Ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5: 20). Choice is yours!

 

[Eilat]

Lets take a look in Act 8:35-39 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.!

YES, lets take a look.

Try READING instead of just posting what your church has recreated as false theology.

Just READ.
Can you read?

Your verse says....

"If you believe with all your heart"..

Do you see that part, BRO T ?

That is FAITH....

"BELIEVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART">........and once you do that, you are BORN AGAIN.

Then what happens in the verse, Bro t?

You get in the WATER.
But that is AFTER YOU BELIEVE.

See that?

You BELIEVE, = born again, then you are water baptized.
THATS' the VERSE.

This is not difficult to SEE, unless you have been mind blinded by a cult or a lying teacher.

Here it is again, bro T.

1. BELIEVE = BORN AGAIN.........and then the verse says......... 2.) Water

Notice it says IF you BELIEVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART.

So, that is the REQUIREMENT to be born again, and as the verse teaches, .... once you do that, you THEN get in the water.

 

[Bro.T]

YES, lets take a look.

Try READING instead of just posting what your church has recreated as false theology.

Just READ.
Can you read?

Your verse says....

"If you believe with all your heart"..

Do you see that part, BRO T ?

That is FAITH....

"BELIEVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART">........and once you do that, you are BORN AGAIN.

Then what happens in the verse, Bro t?

You get in the WATER.
But that is AFTER YOU BELIEVE.

See that?

You BELIEVE, = born again, then you are water baptized.
THATS' the VERSE.

This is not difficult to SEE, unless you have been mind blinded by a cult or a lying teacher.

Here it is again, bro T.

1. BELIEVE = BORN AGAIN.........and then the verse says......... 2.) Water

Notice it says IF you BELIEVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART.

So, that is the REQUIREMENT to be born again, and as the verse teaches, .... once you do that, you THEN get in the water.

Anyone that is not baptized is a person with their sins yet upon them, because it is the baptism that washes away our past sins. "And now why tarriest thou? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." (Acts 22:16):

Again, born again is a change in the body not in the mind...John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Notice verse 3, except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. We have just learned something here. If you are not born again you can not see the kingdom of God. As we go further you will understand this. Remember there is a time for everything.

Nicodemus asked a very good question. Take a look at the next set of verses.

John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

In verse 5, born of the water in this case is the Word of God. Notice the Lord mentions the kingdom of God again, but He adds a little more information. He says "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. When he mentions spirit He means exactly that. Watch how the Lord gives something physical to describe exactly what He means.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Notice He made a difference between flesh and spirit.

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Notice He compared the wind to a spirit. Can you see the wind? No! We have seen things being blown around by the wind, but we have never seen the wind. If you are born of the spirit you are like the wind. This is when you are truly born again, when you are born of the spirit.

All in the book, this is what you can do if you are born again. If you can't come and go like the wind, you are not born again. Simple to understand!