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You have taught me something very valuable. Spending about an hour in preparing material to respond to your post was a waste of time, as demonstrated by this kind of response.
If you read my response carefully at #31, you would know that I carefully addressed your 3 questions. It was not a Johnny-come-lately response.I don't understand what you had to "prep" for. If somebody asks me a question about my experiences, I can answer off the top of my head because I was there when it happened.
But you have to spend an hour of "prep"?
If you read my response carefully at #31, you would know that I carefully addressed your 3 questions.
I believe in giving thoughtful biblical replies.
Yes, buddy, I spent about an hour preparing that response to you. You don't have a clue that I have 2 major disabilities. Writing on the Internet camouflages that.
You know that it did not require the kind of preparation of #31, so please quit harassing me.But you obviously didn't spend an hour preparing this response, as the time stamps on the two posts shows a 41 minute difference, minus the two or three minutes it took you to actually type it.
In other words, you did just fine without "preparation".
How were you able to post this without preparing for it? Why did one need "an hour of preparation", followed by a lengthy dissertation, but this one, you just typed off the top of your head?
You know that it did not require the kind of preparation of #31, so please quit harassing me.
When you quit disparaging a person with disabilities
However, putting me down is not a way to encourage communication.
I know that there is considerable diversity within the Baptist movement, but I'm not sure whether this extends to multiple positions on glossolalia.
Now Faith,
Yes, tongues is among the main issue re the gifts, but that is understandable because it is so often abused and misunderstood. However, one of the reasons we have 1 Cor in the Bible is because of the abuse of tongues at Corinth. We have similar abuses today, but we have the dynamite correction of 1 Cor 12-14 to help us.
I'm ashamed at times to be identified with the charismatic movement because of the abuse. I recently was invited to attend a nearby charismatic house church where it wasn't long before people were rolling on the floor, screaming, etc. I was so disgusted with what I was seeing that I spoke with the leader (guru?) and left the meeting. I will not submit myself to such ungodly behaviour where things were not being done decently and in order (cr 1 Cor 14:40).
I have a low tolerance for false doctrine and disorder that I saw in that house church.
I was fortunate in that it was quite a way back that I was introduced to the movement of God by his Spirit in a small group where the supernatural gifts were evident and there was order.
I am blessed that my Baptist background gave me a solid base in theology in the early years of my Christian life. I have to admit that my involvement with the charismatic movement has caused me to be exposed to churches and interdenominational groups where there was sometimes a lack of solid biblical foundation.
Oz
Why? They were questions to you about your experience.
OK. We'll just mark that one down as a "no".
That's not an answer. All you did is repeat the claim.
Utterances in tongues brings us into the Fathers will for our lives.
It bypasses the flesh and gives us discernment by our inner witness.
Nope forget it your right but for time sake I was referring to this:Where's the biblical support for that statement?
Baptists don't believe in tongues. This is true doctrinally and historically. Baptists believe the Bible is the final word of God.
Yours in the Lord,
jm
Seriously??? I speak in tongues and pray in tongues at will. It most certainly is of God. You need to do your homework before attributing the gifts of the Holy Spirit to satan.
No it isnt...its just not right to do it without interpetation in church.It is baseless to claim that speaking gibberish is prompted by God! It is the emotional person's spirit, nothing to do with the Holy Spirit. That is what Paul also claimed.
It is baseless to claim that speaking gibberish is prompted by God! It is the emotional person's spirit, nothing to do with the Holy Spirit. That is what Paul also claimed.
No it isnt...its just not right to do it without interpetation in church.
Come on ppl read your bibles not just a few verses.
It is baseless to claim that speaking gibberish is prompted by God! It is the emotional person's spirit, nothing to do with the Holy Spirit. That is what Paul also claimed.
Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. 3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. 4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. 5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up
Seems as though 1 Cor 12-14 is missing from your Bible.
What did the apostle Paul say about the gift of tongues? 'Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues' (1 Cor 14:39 NIV). Paul did not say, 'do not forbid speaking in gibberish'.
In calling tongues 'gibberish' you have stooped to use the appeal to ridicule logical fallacy. It would be better for you to appeal to the exegetical evidence from Scripture.
That evidence includes 1 Cor 14:13-19.
See my article: Is the spiritual gift of tongues ‘gibberish’?
I've written further in: [URL='https://spencer.gear.dyndns.org/2012/10/03/is-the-gift-of-tongues-an-example-of-babbling-to-god/']Is the gift of tongues an example of babbling to God?
You seem to be missing the importance of 1 Cor 14:1-5 (ESV) and what the gift of tongues is meant to convey:[/URL]
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