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That’s nice; does one’s politics “change” when one repents?
Anybody else see doublethink here?
There is that, yes, the trick to to get some benefit for the rest of us while they rake it in.
We’ve departed from that station some time ago.
Not what I was talking about.I think we can all take time to mark the progress we've made and use it as a reminder of the work still to be done. I can use the Gay Mardi Gras in Sydney as an example. We used to attend as a mark of solidarity with gay rights. Now so much progress has been made here that it's more of a celebration of that fact and it's turned into a party rather than a demonstration. The original march for rights served it's purpose. So...we don't bother going any more. But turning up is not used as a 'litmus test' as to your position on gay rights. And anyone else who suggested that I didn't support them because I don't now go would get short thrift.
No, that is not hyperbole! It is actually happening, more than one documented circumstance, even backed by local black politicians. It's considered "personal reparations."Hyperbole doesn't help in this type of discussion.
Once the fight for rights is over you needn’t feel obligated to attend, (as you apparently do not); that event is now a celebration of all the hard work that got those folk enough freedom to party hardy, without fear of social isolation.I think we can all take time to mark the progress we've made and use it as a reminder of the work still to be done. I can use the Gay Mardi Gras in Sydney as an example. We used to attend as a mark of solidarity with gay rights. Now so much progress has been made here that it's more of a celebration of that fact and it's turned into a party rather than a demonstration. The original march for rights served it's purpose. So...we don't bother going any more. But turning up is not used as a 'litmus test' as to your position on gay rights. And anyone else who suggested that I didn't support them because I don't now go would get short thrift.
That's where the caring for others including enemies comes in... now.
Whenever someone decides to divvy up the country into two groups, they always seem to place themselves in the “correct” group.No, politics fights over the selfishness of man while those of the Kingdom care for others including their enemies.
Then the person is an unrepresentative idiot for claiming that he or she could get away with it simply being 'a minority' and anyone who let them get away with it is a bigger idiot. You have have 'more than one documented circumstance' of stupidity.No, that is not hyperbole! It is actually happening, more than one documented circumstance, even backed by local black politicians. It's considered "personal reparations."
The fight went on long enough that my kids were involved to a certain extent. Especially my daughter who has a lot of gay friends. But the grandkids? It'll be 'Marches? Protests? Demanding rights? I...don't get it. Why would they need to do that?'Once the fight for rights is over you needn’t feel obligated to attend, (as you apparently do not); that event is now a celebration of all the hard work that got those folk enough freedom to party hardy, without fear of social isolation.
Not attending is fine for straight folk, it wasn’t about them anyways.
You aren't paying as much attention to what's rumbling in the "blackosphere" as I am.Then the person is an unrepresentative idiot for claiming that he or she could get away with it simply being 'a minority' and anyone who let them get away with it is a bigger idiot. You have have 'more than one documented circumstance' of stupidity.
Should be "too dumb" and am not!
The fight went on long enough that my kids were involved to a certain extent. Especially my daughter who has a lot of gay friends.
Those of the world assume two groups while those of the kingdom know there are three.Whenever someone decides to divvy up the country into two groups, they always seem to place themselves in the “correct” group.
Enjoy your day.
Every generation says that at some point. What we don't have today is a sense of responsibility before rights. It has gotten reversed.But instead, we have a political system full of toxic nostalgia and our society is dominated by a spiritually and morally bankrupt culture based on greed, self-interest, and shallow moralisms.
Yes, you are right. Not all the framers were of the same mind. I guess I meant the quote to suggest that as America has become less Christian it is losing its salt so to speak. Hopefully a trend that will reverse.Well, to be fair, the framers were divided on the issue.
People will often cite quotes like the on you have above to make a claim that it was intended to be a religious nation (and we can get into the problems and pitfalls of that if you'd like) ...or the slight variation of that same sentiment which is what you expressed, which is "this limited government stuff only works if everyone believes in God"
But then neglect to mention that other framers/founders made statements like these (all made by different framers)
The Bible is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalise mankind.
The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy.
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.
It's important to note that what's considered an atheist or agnostic today, would've often been referred to as a "deist" in those times. And a substantial portion of the the gentlemen who helped set up our country fit that mold.
For every John Adams and John Jay, there was a Ben Franklin and Thomas Paine.
If something severe happens to draw people back to God, you can bet at first it will be to blame Him for events. Man is never good at taking responsibility for the mess we make and understanding it is our will, not His, that creates the problems in the first place.Hopefully a trend that will reverse.
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