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I wouldn't want her teaching either. But not because I am black or white. But because Poor Children come in all colors and need understanding and support. I would fear she would give off an attitude to the children. All children
Part of the issue here is that "poor" is a relative, arbitrary word. What we call poor in America would be considered upper middle class in a lot of the world.
 
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I am caucasian, and a black friend of mine once referred to 'white trash' in a conversation. I would guess the 'privileged' demographic the person was describing might include those who are considered by some to be 'white trash'.

I was a little shocked that my friend used such a term, as I thought it sounded a little racist. Then, much later on, I realised that they must be so comfortable talking to me that they forgot I wasn't one of their black friends.

Life is weird sometimes!
 
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This has been happening a lot. People will reference things you’ve said years ago and it can happen to anyone.

~Bella
Yea that is crazy.
 
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I am caucasian, and a black friend of mine once referred to 'white trash' in a conversation. I would guess the 'privileged' demographic the person was describing might include those who are considered by some to be 'white trash'.

I was a little shocked that my friend used such a term, as I thought it sounded a little racist. Then, much later on, I realised that they must be so comfortable talking to me that they forgot I wasn't one of their black friends.

Life is weird sometimes!
I am poor white trash and proud to be so. God gives a special blessing to the poor. I consider myself a white trash millionaire.
 
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It troubles me that you can now get fired for expressing a view on social media.

I would say that if you're not even permitted to express your thoughts in private, your level of "privilege" is actually very low.
 
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Then, much later on, I realised that they must be so comfortable talking to me that they forgot I wasn't one of their black friends.
Either that or they just don't care, because they have the privilege of not having to care.
 
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It troubles me that you can now get fired for expressing a view on social media. Not beating someone up. Not sexually harassing a student. Not keying someone's car. Stuff which should cost a person their job. But posting an idea or thought online.
In most states you can be fired for any reason other than discrimination (if you are a protected class.). You can be fired because your boss doesn’t like your hair, or because you stand up for yourself. This is nothing new and it’s Republicans who always fight for bosses to have the right to fire ppl for almost any reason. Do you think we should pass laws that regulate why people can be fired?
 
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In most states you can be fired for any reason other than discrimination (if you are a protected class.). You can be fired because your boss doesn’t like your hair, or because you stand up for yourself. This is nothing new and it’s Republicans who always fight for bosses to have the right to fire ppl for almost any reason. Do you think we should pass laws that regulate why people can be fired?
You seemed all for it in a different thread, although I tried to explain to you why extra-judicial punishment dispensed via the court of Twitter was not a good thing.
 
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Mentioning a race doesn't make you racist.

In America, White have gotten where they are on the backs of slavery and Jim Crow. Hundreds of years of "natural" empire evolution was skipped via slavery and the subsequent discrimination that categorically privileged a certain group of people. The children of the figures of Antebellum have been taught how to exploit that privilege while at the same time damning the underprivileged. Those people have taught their children, who teach their children the same knee-jerk reactions to mere "suggestions" of racism and discrimination.

White Privilege isn't a racist rant. You have to have at least one eye and one ear to know that it is a matter of fact in America.




The solution is clearly to treat black people in America as equals, and human. Would you apologize for a dog that doesn't bite getting chocked out to death by a cop? Why it is acceptable for a black man to be chocked out by a cop when he is unarmed and restrained? Because it is clear black lives are a prop in America part of the time, and a level later to a demonic entity the rest of the time.

So, while the solution is simple, America will never actually attain it. Americans would rather see the nation burn to the ground than treat a certain group of people as equals and human (not like tragic cases, or lost children). The day America treats blacks as nearly equal is the day America will fall; racism is the glue that keeps America together.

So, you can probably see America is getting closer to its demise - and "we" are begging for it. If it takes 100+ years to realize something that should be obvious, you are already at a spiritual disadvantage.
"In America, White have gotten where they are on the backs of slavery and Jim Crow. Hundreds of years of "natural" empire evolution was skipped via slavery and the subsequent discrimination that categorically privileged a certain group of people."

I hope you are open to some facts. Slavery is the least productive form of labour. When the UK abolished slavery in 1807, the economy began to improve markedly. The reason is simple. People who are rewarded for what they do are more productive compared with those who are enslaved. People respond much better to reward than punishment. Properly fed people can work harder than those half starved. They are also less susceptible to ill health.

The wartime economy of Germany is also instructive. The Nazis employed slave labour who were literally, with a few exceptions, worked to death. Most of the able bodied German men were in the armed forces, as were UK and US men. The UK and USA employed women in jobs traditionally done by men. They were paid for their efforts, of course. Slaves in Germany were far less productive. They also risked their lives by sabotaging production at times. It's easy to see why. To say that slavery is the basis of America's substantial economy is just wrong. If there had been no slavery, people would have been paid for productive employment, been more efficient and the economy would have prospered more.
 
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In most states you can be fired for any reason other than discrimination (if you are a protected class.). You can be fired because your boss doesn’t like your hair, or because you stand up for yourself. This is nothing new and it’s Republicans who always fight for bosses to have the right to fire ppl for almost any reason. Do you think we should pass laws that regulate why people can be fired?
Australia has unfair dismissal laws. There are also laws about job discrimination. It's a problem. If an employer is paying someone to do a job, then he/she has the right to decide who is suitable and who is not. I did not enjoy the discrimination I suffered as an older person looking for work. However, I respect the right to hire and fire, so I did not complain. When the state gets overly involved in people's lives, it rarely works out well. Australia never recovered from just a few years of rank socialism. The way things are goi8ng, it never will.
 
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All for firing ppl for racist public statements or actions, which I consider gross misconduct and therefore meet the tests of just cause. As a union rep, I believe all workers deserve just cause protection. Where did I change my tune here?
The road to dictatorship, so I believe. What people do outside of their work is their own business. When socialists (and unions are by definition) start to step outside the workplace, it's another attack on individual freedoms.
 
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All for firing ppl for racist public statements or actions, which I consider gross misconduct and therefore meet the tests of just cause. As a union rep, I believe all workers deserve just cause protection. Where did I change my tune here?
In civilised countries we put people on trial, and if they are found to have broken the law, then they are sentenced according to sentencing guidelines. That's what happens in the UK, and I'd guess it's similar in the USA.

What you are advocating is, effectively, for the court to be Twitter, followed by extra-judicial punishment, which is usually job loss. I've tried to explain to you in the other thread why this is wrong, and may even be counterproductive in terms of changing behaviour, but you seem set in your ways.
 
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The road to dictatorship, so I believe. What people do outside of their work is their own business. When socialists (and unions are by definition) start to step outside the workplace, it's another attack on individual freedoms.
But it’s unions who protect much of that activity outside of work from being subject to discipline. I’m not sure what you mean about unions stepping outside the workplace?
 
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In most states you can be fired for any reason other than discrimination (if you are a protected class.). You can be fired because your boss doesn’t like your hair, or because you stand up for yourself. This is nothing new and it’s Republicans who always fight for bosses to have the right to fire ppl for almost any reason. Do you think we should pass laws that regulate why people can be fired?
No.We have enough political correctness coming down from a central government.
 
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