What is our Inheritance?

[keras]

Many Christians misinterpret Romans 9:6-8 to infer that we gentile Christians in the Body of Christ, just because thru Christ, we are justified by faith like Abraham was, thus can consider Abraham also to be our "father of faith", can now qualify to be true Israel.

But belief in God and the acceptance of the Salvation offered by Jesus; DOES mean Christians are the Israelites of God, Literally - the Overcomers for Him.
Isaiah 51:7-8 Listen to Me, My people, those who know what is right, you that lay My instructions to heart and do not fear the taunts of the enemy. For they will be like a garment eaten by moths, but My saving power will last forever.

My people, those who know what is right, you that lay My instructions to heart: Can only be every born again Christian person.
Proved by Isaiah 51:1-2…you that seek the Lord, consider Abraham to be your father and Sarah your mother; you are their increase…. Galatians 3:26-29 & 6:14-16

 

[Guojing]

But belief in God and the acceptance of the Salvation offered by Jesus; DOES mean Christians are the Israelites of God, Literally - the Overcomers for Him.
Isaiah 51:7-8 Listen to Me, My people, those who know what is right, you that lay My instructions to heart and do not fear the taunts of the enemy. For they will be like a garment eaten by moths, but My saving power will last forever.

My people, those who know what is right, you that lay My instructions to heart: Can only be every born again Christian person.
Proved by Isaiah 51:1-2…you that seek the Lord, consider Abraham to be your father and Sarah your mother; you are their increase…. Galatians 3:26-29 & 6:14-16

Unless Jacob is somehow your father, you cannot be part of Israel.

Abraham has many other children other than with Sarah (Genesis 25:1-4), so being Abraham's seed alone is not sufficient to be part of Jacob/Israel.

 

[Jamdoc]

Galatians 3 (I would think that this verse is so well known I wouldn't have to post this, but apparently..)

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Yet you guys think we have a separate destiny from the Jews? Why? You believe you spend ETERNITY somewhere else than them.
and worse still, you believe that Jesus is with you, the gentiles, separated from His own people including His Earthly Mother and Adoptive Father?

Degreek yourself. This idea that you want to spend eternity as a spirit in a spirit realm and not be a part of the recreated physical Universe is so Plato and Greek it makes me want to vomit.

God did not create the material world inherently evil and the spirit world inherently good. God created both spirit and flesh as holy and very good.

it was a SPIRITUAL BEING that tempted flesh to sin.
Never forget that.

Humans were created BODY FIRST and then became a living soul.
Never forget that.

God intended us from the beginning to be both Corporeal and Spiritual beings living in a physical universe stewarding His creation and having dominion of it, and that plan did not change.

 

[keras]

Unless Jacob is somehow your father, you cannot be part of Israel.

Abraham has many other children other than with Sarah (Genesis 25:1-4), so being Abraham's seed alone is not sufficient to be part of Jacob/Israel.

I am a descendant of Abraham ......as is every other person alive today. The mathematics of genetic dispersion proves that.
But who is a true Israelite of God, is discerned from their belief in God and trust in Jesus. Which cuts out most of the people group who call themselves Jews.
Any theory or doctrine which promotes Jewish Israel as the chosen peoples, is wrong and is made to support false teachings.

 

[keras]

This idea that you want to spend eternity as a spirit in a spirit realm and not be a part of the recreated physical Universe is so Plato and Greek it makes me want to vomit.

I do not view Revelation 21 to 22:1-4, as being physical for Eternity. That idea is in fact; impossible. Revelation 22:4 ....there will be no sun, only the Light of God....as His servants shall reign for ever.

 

[Jamdoc]

I do not view Revelation 21 to 22:1-4, as being physical for Eternity. That idea is in fact; impossible. Revelation 22:4 ....there will be no sun, only the Light of God....as His servants shall reign for ever.

Revelation 22:4

4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

You mean 5, but still

5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

Doesn't say the sun won't exist, just that we won't actually need it.

 

[Guojing]

I am a descendant of Abraham ......as is every other person alive today. The mathematics of genetic dispersion proves that.

But who is a true Israelite of God, is discerned from their belief in God and trust in Jesus. Which cuts out most of the people group who call themselves Jews.
Any theory or doctrine which promotes Jewish Israel as the chosen peoples, is wrong and is made to support false teachings.

If you want to believe you can be Israel, without having Jacob as your father, no one can stop you from having that belief.

 

[Guojing]

Yet you guys think we have a separate destiny from the Jews? Why? You believe you spend ETERNITY somewhere else than them.
and worse still, you believe that Jesus is with you, the gentiles, separated from His own people including His Earthly Mother and Adoptive Father?

See Ephesians 1:10. Israel will reign on Earth (Zechariah 8:23), the Body of Christ will reign in the heavens (1 Corinthians 6:3).

 

[keras]

If you want to believe you can be Israel, without having Jacob as your father, no one can stop you from having that belief.

No different to the mixed race peoples currently occupying a small part of the Holy Land and falsely calling themselves Israel.
The real, true Israelite peoples are those who are Overcomers for God, as Jacob was. Just as the faithful Christian peoples are.

the Body of Christ will reign in the heavens (1 Corinthians 6:3).

That scripture does not prove that humans will go to heaven. Many scriptures say such a thing is impossible.

 

[Guojing]

No different to the mixed race peoples currently occupying a small part of the Holy Land and falsely calling themselves Israel.
The real, true Israelite peoples are those who are Overcomers for God, as Jacob was. Just as the faithful Christian peoples are.

That scripture does not prove that humans will go to heaven. Many scriptures say such a thing is impossible.

If you want to judge angels while on earth, I wish you the best