What is Considered Losing Your Virginity in Christianity?

[EndlessSerenade]

As far as my knowledge goes the Catholic Church does not see oral sex as a form of birth control and do still support birth control. There are probably some really conservatives that do believe that but from a Catholic forum that I visit often the stance is generally that birth control is still acceptable. But I cannot testify this to be a fact. Orthodox do believe in birth control as well. So yes, I also support birth control.

As for Natural law. There is no law that states that in the Bible, this is just a stance that our denomination has and I agree with that. Natural Law refers to this

"The natural law is rooted in design. God, the Supreme Designer, has imprinted a design on all created things--including the human person, both in his spiritual and physical being--a purpose for which each has been created. Thus, with regard to the human person, the Creator has designed the digestive system for nourishing the person, speech for communicating the truth, the mouth to swallow food for nourishment etc. Likewise, the Creator has designed the sexual organs for something, namely, for procreating children and for expressing the personal communion of the spouses."

Oral sex is not natural. It is contrary to natural law. If oral sex is OK, then are anal sex or nasal sex also OK? There must be some natural parameters to sexual expression. Otherwise, we have little reason not to permit homosexual activity or even sex between humans and animals. Something must be natural, and therefore other things unnatural. Therefor the sperm refers to just that which is Natural Law. Sperm was created to create humans, not for anything else therefor according to natural law it should go where it was intended for according to God's design and purpose, which would be the vagina.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

My rule is follow God with your whole heart.

I don't know what your rule is, but you seem intent on manipulating it allow you to do what you want. You seem to think that your rule is scripture and now you want to justify your behavior by proof texting it. This is not following God.

What are God's rules regarding oral sex and where am I manipulating said rules?

You made a claim, now support it.

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

As far as my knowledge goes the Catholic Church does not see oral sex as a form of birth control and do still support birth control. There are probably some really conservatives that do believe that but from a Catholic forum that I visit often the stance is generally that birth control is still acceptable. But I cannot testify this to be a fact. Orthodox do believe in birth control as well. So yes, I also support birth control.

Well, I suppose we'll have to drop that for now as neither of us is educated enough on Catholicism nor it's doctrines regarding birth control nor oral sex.

As for Natural law. There is no law that states that in the Bible, this is just a stance that our denomination has and I agree with that. Natural Law refers to this

"The natural law is rooted in design. God, the Supreme Designer, has imprinted a design on all created things--including the human person, both in his spiritual and physical being--a purpose for which each has been created. Thus, with regard to the human person, the Creator has designed the digestive system for nourishing the person, speech for communicating the truth, the mouth to swallow food for nourishment etc. Likewise, the Creator has designed the sexual organs for something, namely, for procreating children and for expressing the personal communion of the spouses."

That's fine if that's what you believe. But understand, it is one opinion of application of scripture and is not held by all Christian denominations. Therefore any definitive statement regarding God's rule or natural law is specific to your limited view (limited by doctrine) of God and is not necessarily an ultimate truth.

Oral sex is not natural. It is contrary to natural law.

I understand that you believe this. I however, do not and have been presented with no scriptural evidence that would prove my opinion to be incorrect.

If oral sex is OK, then are anal sex or nasal sex also OK?

I believe that within the confines of marriage and considering consent than yes, oral/anal/nasal or any other kind of sex between these two persons is ok.

There must be some natural parameters to sexual expression.

Assuming that this sexual expression is between a husband and wife and both are consenting to the act -

Why?

Otherwise, we have little reason not to permit homosexual activity or even sex between humans and animals.

That's outside of the box that is marriage between a man and woman.

Something must be natural, and therefore other things unnatural.

This is a logical fallacy that cannot be proven. Such as - some things are good, therefore some things are evil.

There is not always an inverse to an assertion.

Therefor the sperm refers to just that which is Natural Law. Sperm was created to create humans, not for anything else therefor according to natural law it should go where it was intended for according to God's design and purpose, which would be the vagina.

But you support birth control. Assuming that a married husband and wife are having sex and are using birth control, essentially eliminating any realistic chance that conception will occur, is the husband still emitting sperm with [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]?

 

[William II]

As far as my knowledge goes the Catholic Church does not see oral sex as a form of birth control and do still support birth control. There are probably some really conservatives that do believe that but from a Catholic forum that I visit often the stance is generally that birth control is still acceptable. But I cannot testify this to be a fact. Orthodox do believe in birth control as well. So yes, I also support birth control.

As for Natural law. There is no law that states that in the Bible, this is just a stance that our denomination has and I agree with that. Natural Law refers to this

"The natural law is rooted in design. God, the Supreme Designer, has imprinted a design on all created things--including the human person, both in his spiritual and physical being--a purpose for which each has been created. Thus, with regard to the human person, the Creator has designed the digestive system for nourishing the person, speech for communicating the truth, the mouth to swallow food for nourishment etc. Likewise, the Creator has designed the sexual organs for something, namely, for procreating children and for expressing the personal communion of the spouses."

Oral sex is not natural. It is contrary to natural law. If oral sex is OK, then are anal sex or nasal sex also OK? There must be some natural parameters to sexual expression. Otherwise, we have little reason not to permit homosexual activity or even sex between humans and animals. Something must be natural, and therefore other things unnatural. Therefor the sperm refers to just that which is Natural Law. Sperm was created to create humans, not for anything else therefor according to natural law it should go where it was intended for according to God's design and purpose, which would be the vagina.

Nasal sex? Tell me more.

 

[WinBySurrender]

Oral "sex" is not sex at all. It is not sexual reproduction.

"Sex" is short for "Sexual reproduction". You cannot produce babies from your mouth, can you?

Rationalizing for your own purposes I see. Webster's definition of oral sex: "sexual activity that involves stimulating someone's genitals with the tongue or mouth". [Emphasis added]

Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary

 

[TheChristianSurvivalGuide]

Oral "sex" is not sex at all. It is not sexual reproduction.

"Sex" is short for "Sexual reproduction". You cannot produce babies from your mouth, can you?

It's a sexual activity even if it's not true procreation. It is not simply a mouth massage.