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What is a religion.

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Dear atheists here, I was having very enjoyable attempts to get to exchange ideas with you on how to prove God exists.

Well, I am leaving that thread now: because atheists there are not anymore receptive to talk on how to prove God exists - from their part, of course, how to disprove God exists.

I am starting a new thread, "What is a religion."

Again, I am into getting atheists to talk with me.

Here is the background of my interest now on what is a religion, read the Annex below.

There you will get to know what I have for a definition of religion.

Please contribute your comments, and of course, tell me what is your idea of religion.

See you guys tomorrow, again.

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What Is Your Religion?
Yesterday at 3:49 AM #5 Pachomius wrote:

Well, that is very interesting to me, What is your religion?

So, just tell me if you all here notice that I am in any ways and means into any infraction of the rules, regulations, etc. of this board and generally of CF.

Here goes, my first contribution to the conversation here.

First and foremost, I like us all to work as to concur on what is religion.

Here is my concept of what is religion:

Religion is the belief in a superior being or beings resulting in affections and actions intended by the believer to influence the superior being or beings to help him the believer in everything in which he the believer is in need of help.

Now, what is my religion?

My religion is the Christian faith, as proclaimed in The Apostles’ Creed; here is my memory of The Christians’ Apostles’ Creed:

“I believe in God the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only begotten son, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell, the third day He rose again from the dead, He ascended unto heaven seated at the right hand of God, the Father almighty.
From thence He shall come back to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.”

There, that is my religion, I could have gotten some words not so correctly written by me from memory.

I can recite also the No. 1 prayer of Christians, The Lord’s Prayer which is the Our Father, here goes, the Our Father:

“Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not unto temptation, but deliver us from evil.
[For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.]

There that is my from memory the recitation of the No. 1 prayer of Christians.

Shall I now go into the recitation of The Ten Commandments, the list of moral rules Christians must live by, otherwise they will not ever get to heaven, but will land in hell when they die?

What about you guys, fellow Christians, what is your concept of religion?

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Dear atheists here, I was having very enjoyable attempts to get to exchange ideas with you on how to prove God exists.

Well, I am leaving that thread now: because atheists there are not anymore receptive to talk on how to prove God exists - from their part, of course, how to disprove God exists.

I am starting a new thread, "What is a religion."

Again, I am into getting atheists to talk with me.

Here is the background of my interest now on what is a religion, read the Annex below.

There you will get to know what I have for a definition of religion.

Please contribute your comments, and of course, tell me what is your idea of religion.

See you guys tomorrow, again.

Annex
What Is Your Religion?
Yesterday at 3:49 AM #5 Pachomius wrote:

Well, that is very interesting to me, What is your religion?

So, just tell me if you all here notice that I am in any ways and means into any infraction of the rules, regulations, etc. of this board and generally of CF.

Here goes, my first contribution to the conversation here.

First and foremost, I like us all to work as to concur on what is religion.

Here is my concept of what is religion:

Religion is the belief in a superior being or beings resulting in affections and actions intended by the believer to influence the superior being or beings to help him the believer in everything in which he the believer is in need of help.

Now, what is my religion?

My religion is the Christian faith, as proclaimed in The Apostles’ Creed; here is my memory of The Christians’ Apostles’ Creed:

“I believe in God the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only begotten son, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell, the third day He rose again from the dead, He ascended unto heaven seated at the right hand of God, the Father almighty.
From thence He shall come back to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.”

There, that is my religion, I could have gotten some words not so correctly written by me from memory.

I can recite also the No. 1 prayer of Christians, The Lord’s Prayer which is the Our Father, here goes, the Our Father:

“Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not unto temptation, but deliver us from evil.
[For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.]

There that is my from memory the recitation of the No. 1 prayer of Christians.

Shall I now go into the recitation of The Ten Commandments, the list of moral rules Christians must live by, otherwise they will not ever get to heaven, but will land in hell when they die?

What about you guys, fellow Christians, what is your concept of religion?

[End of Annex]

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Here is my concept of what is religion:

Religion is the belief in a superior being or beings resulting in affections and actions intended by the believer to influence the superior being or beings to help him the believer in everything in which he the believer is in need of help.

That is dodgy from the outset:

a.) It presupposes that religion must involve a belief in God or gods. Buddhism wouldn't fit into that definition.

b.) In the case of Christianity, it presupposes that religion is an attempt to cajole God into being at our bec and call - which is to get the nature of the relationship very much the wrong way around.
 
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Dear atheists here, I was having very enjoyable attempts to get to exchange ideas with you on how to prove God exists.

Well, I am leaving that thread now: because atheists there are not anymore receptive to talk on how to prove God exists - from their part, of course, how to disprove God exists.

I am starting a new thread, "What is a religion."

Again, I am into getting atheists to talk with me.

Here is the background of my interest now on what is a religion, read the Annex below.

There you will get to know what I have for a definition of religion.

Please contribute your comments, and of course, tell me what is your idea of religion.

See you guys tomorrow, again.

Annex
What Is Your Religion?
Yesterday at 3:49 AM #5 Pachomius wrote:

Well, that is very interesting to me, What is your religion?

So, just tell me if you all here notice that I am in any ways and means into any infraction of the rules, regulations, etc. of this board and generally of CF.

Here goes, my first contribution to the conversation here.

First and foremost, I like us all to work as to concur on what is religion.

Here is my concept of what is religion:

Religion is the belief in a superior being or beings resulting in affections and actions intended by the believer to influence the superior being or beings to help him the believer in everything in which he the believer is in need of help.

Now, what is my religion?

My religion is the Christian faith, as proclaimed in The Apostles’ Creed; here is my memory of The Christians’ Apostles’ Creed:

“I believe in God the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only begotten son, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell, the third day He rose again from the dead, He ascended unto heaven seated at the right hand of God, the Father almighty.
From thence He shall come back to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting.”

There, that is my religion, I could have gotten some words not so correctly written by me from memory.

I can recite also the No. 1 prayer of Christians, The Lord’s Prayer which is the Our Father, here goes, the Our Father:

“Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not unto temptation, but deliver us from evil.
[For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever and ever. Amen.]

There that is my from memory the recitation of the No. 1 prayer of Christians.

Shall I now go into the recitation of The Ten Commandments, the list of moral rules Christians must live by, otherwise they will not ever get to heaven, but will land in hell when they die?

What about you guys, fellow Christians, what is your concept of religion?

[End of Annex]

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Ok, I was a late comer to Pachomius' "Proving God Exists" thread, but I am nevertheless disappointed that he has decided not to participate any further in that thread.

C'est la vie.

E.I.
 
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Please contribute your comments, and of course, tell me what is your idea of religion.
Just as weight occurs when gravity is resisted, religion occurs when the Bible is resisted.
 
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No they don't.
Yes, they do.

Question: Did God part the Red Sea?

Religious Nut: No, there's no evidence that He did; let alone evidence that He even exists.
 
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Yes, they do.

Question: Did God part the Red Sea?

Scientists as scientists have nothing to say about that. As private individuals, some would answer in the affirmative (Ian Hutchinson, for example); others would answer in the negative (Richard Dawkins, obviously).
 
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Scientists as scientists have nothing to say about that.
That's their problem.

The Bible says God parted the Red Sea.

If science is putting a gag rule on that, then I submit science is a religion.
 
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Religion is not an activity of which God partakes. He is the object of (some) religions.
But as soon as He attempts to answer questions about the purpose and meaning of life, He becomes religious ... correct?

And if so, what is the name of this particular religion?
 
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That's their problem.

The Bible says God parted the Red Sea.

If science is putting a gag rule on that, then I submit science is a religion.

You have deliberately ignored the rest of that post.
 
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