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What insect walks on all fours?

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In the NIV translation, Leviticus 11:20-21 says that "`All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat:"

In the KJV translation, it is written in Leviticus 11:20 that "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." which is different that verse 21 in the NIV wherein it is written that there were some that could be eaten.

While the LORD made all living creatures both the winged fowl and the creeping insect, what did he advise was the flying insect that walked upon all fours which would be destestable to you? Those who claim the Bible is a myth often cite that insects, both those that fly and don't fly have six legs and use all six for motion is proof that the Bible is a myth so can anyone name a winged creature that walks upon all fours?
 

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So, eating a mantis is a-ok?

If you're having BBQ penguin with butterflys on the side... but do praying mantis have legs above their feet.

If you don't mind my asking, do you wave that Confederate battle flag because you are in armed conflict against any Citizen of the United States or are you just denouncing the U.S. Constitution? You do know what a battle flag signifies right?
 
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Of course! It is flown over a group of tightly packed line infantry men so they don't run when the carnage begins. Also, some music might be played so they don't run away, away, away down south in dixie.

My last signature picture got me a blasphemy warning for posting a picture from an evangelical tract, so I thought I'd try this. So far, noone has complained. After all, it's only a flag. Or rather, a gif of a flag.
 
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In the NIV translation, Leviticus 11:20-21 says that "`All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat:"

In the KJV translation, it is written in Leviticus 11:20 that "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." which is different that verse 21 in the NIV wherein it is written that there were some that could be eaten.

While the LORD made all living creatures both the winged fowl and the creeping insect, what did he advise was the flying insect that walked upon all fours which would be destestable to you? Those who claim the Bible is a myth often cite that insects, both those that fly and don't fly have six legs and use all six for motion is proof that the Bible is a myth so can anyone name a winged creature that walks upon all fours?

Insects have six legs. But only 4 of them are on the ground when walk.
Excellent observation.
 
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In the NIV translation, Leviticus 11:20-21 says that "`All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat:"

In the KJV translation, it is written in Leviticus 11:20 that "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." which is different that verse 21 in the NIV wherein it is written that there were some that could be eaten.

While the LORD made all living creatures both the winged fowl and the creeping insect, what did he advise was the flying insect that walked upon all fours which would be destestable to you? Those who claim the Bible is a myth often cite that insects, both those that fly and don't fly have six legs and use all six for motion is proof that the Bible is a myth so can anyone name a winged creature that walks upon all fours?

It depends on what you count legs and what they counted as legs.
 
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In the NIV translation, Leviticus 11:20-21 says that "`All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat:"

In the KJV translation, it is written in Leviticus 11:20 that "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." which is different that verse 21 in the NIV wherein it is written that there were some that could be eaten.

While the LORD made all living creatures both the winged fowl and the creeping insect, what did he advise was the flying insect that walked upon all fours which would be destestable to you? Those who claim the Bible is a myth often cite that insects, both those that fly and don't fly have six legs and use all six for motion is proof that the Bible is a myth so can anyone name a winged creature that walks upon all fours?
The grass hopper or praying mantas. The mantises or Mantodea are an order of insects that contains over 2,400 species and about 430 genera in 15 families, by far the largest family being Mantidae ("mantids").
 
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P.S. One suspects the ancients of Israel were capable of counting the number of legs on many insects they encountered even if they may typically have preferred not to count the number on centipedes.

Excellent point, but ancients would really need to count the legs on a centipede since the scriptures refer to a "fying creeping thing" that about on all four, so would fall under creeping things that creep upon the earth in Leviticus 11:29, then it doesn't appear they count wether a hundred or none like the snail, being wingless.

Yet would the flying creeping thing in Leviticus 11:20 be a "fowl" or "insect.

Since the facts demonstrate that there is a flying creeping thing that walks upon all four which, whether fowl or insect, here an insect walking upon "all four"....

 
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To "walk on all fours" is probably an ancient expression in opposition to walking upright (Wenham), the number of legs being irrelevant to the idea of non-upright locomotion in the expression.

Could be, could be that they walk on all fours, considering the shear volume of insects upon the earth, one has to say that some of the creepy things that can be found creeping around is pretty fascinating. Like the praying mantis which is a carnivore that can is said to be able to actually catch live prey of flesh, like rodents. Think what that dude could do to somebody who is sleeping, I hear you only have to worry about them when you don't see any :rolleyes:

The grass hopper or praying mantas. The mantises or Mantodea are an order of insects that contains over 2,400 species and about 430 genera in 15 families, by far the largest family being Mantidae ("mantids").
I guess we can always check again...
Looks like it walks upon all six legs since all six touch the ground.
Still got to be the one of the kewlest things

It depends on what you count legs and what they counted as legs.

Kinda makes the distinction given in the passage a precursor to the classification and grouping of the different kinds of insects. Yet the best I can find is that all winged insects have six legs kinda seems if things were random there would be three legged, five legged, three headed, three headed with five legged insects so think the walking on four is kinda like the LORDS way of showing off his creation.
 
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Kinda makes the distinction given in the passage a precursor to the classification and grouping of the different kinds of insects. Yet the best I can find is that all winged insects have six legs kinda seems if things were random there would be three legged, five legged, three headed, three headed with five legged insects so think the walking on four is kinda like the LORDS way of showing off his creation.

For instance, did they make a distinction about what counted as legs if when they had uses other than walking?
 
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For instance, did they make a distinction about what counted as legs if when they had uses other than walking?
Science seems to think they know the difference between bipedel and quad. Things that fly are usually bi not quad. But there are some exceptions as there are always exceptions. The nature of evolution is something is always different from all of the rest. Nothing would be able to evolve if everything was all the same.
 
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P.S. One suspects the ancients of Israel were capable of counting the number of legs on many insects they encountered even if they may typically have preferred not to count the number on centipedes.

True. This is one of the silliest criticisms of the Bible, since it's obviously a translation issue.
 
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For instance, did they make a distinction about what counted as legs if when they had uses other than walking?
Sorry bout that, didn't see your question.

Yes, there are precepts given that allows one to not only identity what creeps in Leviticus 11:20 in order to determine whether it is a fowl [bird] or a flying insect, both or even possibly neither.

For example, the best root meaning of OT:5775 `owph (ofe); from OT:5774; a bird (as covered with feathers, or rather as covering with wings), often collectively: that I could find wasדבר מעופף, meaning 'winged thing" ' yet I consider' 'winged creature' a more perfect description of OT 5775 in conjuction with OT:5774 `uwph (oof); a primitive root; to cover (with wings or obscurity); hence (as denominative from OT:5775) to fly; also (by implication of dimness) to faint (from the darkness of swooning):would be , yet private interpretations are prophetic and it makes no sense prophesying to the believers.

If OT 5774 is correctly interpreted as 'flying insect' then there wouldn't be any sense to continue along the premise that the flying things are the winged creatures referenced in precept of the 5th day. How could I ask anyone to consider Duet. 4:32, or Job 12:7-10, I mean it is written;

But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: Job 12:7

So I sought out a winged creature that gathered in an aggregrate, to listen to see if any of them might know about this fowl that moves upon the surface of the earth upon all four of their appendages.

What can I say other than I will shut up now.
 
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