What if...

[Gottservant]

...what if the one evolved creature that ever did something purely for your sake was to you so technically beneath you that you never adapted to the good that person did?

...what if it so happened that people caught on that calling someone who did absolutely the most the could for you "beneath you" was actually a violent form of hate, a black and threatening hate against which survival instinct naturally cut?

...what if the future came about that all those like you were isolated, trapped, subverted or passively euthanased because the threat perceived in hating - with accusations and wilful corruption - those that resisted that hate was perceived to be less existentially viable as a survival good than the greater evolved good of evolved social harmony?

 

[flatworm]

Good morning GottServant.

Could you please explain what on earth you're talking about?

 

[pgp_protector]

Does Google have a Gottservant to English Translator ?

 

[Gracchus]

...what if the one evolved creature that ever did something purely for your sake was to you so technically beneath you that you never adapted to the good that person did?

You seem to be positing an unselfish creature with an inferior grasp of technology. I am not sure, either, what you mean by adapting to good. Could it be that you are the unselfish creature with the inferior grasp of technology? And then, I suppose, adapting to good would involve unquestioning acceptance of your pontifical postings.

...what if it so happened that people caught on that calling someone who did absolutely the most the could for you "beneath you" was actually a violent form of hate, a black and threatening hate against which survival instinct naturally cut?

So, if my suppositions are correct, you feel threatened, and are projecting onto others your own black and threatening hate, in order to justify some action.

...what if the future came about that all those like you were isolated, trapped, subverted or passively euthanased because the threat perceived in hating - with accusations and wilful corruption - those that resisted that hate was perceived to be less existentially viable as a survival good than the greater evolved good of evolved social harmony?

Does this mean we are going to the bad place because we don't agree with you or recognize your moral superiority? Or perhaps you really meant something else?

(Ladies and gentlemen, I submit that Gottservant may be in fact a deeply disturbed individual. Remember that those who believe absurdities can always find justification for atrocities, and religion is among the most absurd phenomena.)

 

[Bombila]

Oh, oh! I know! This is about dogs!

...what if the one evolved creature that ever did something purely for your sake was to you so technically beneath you that you never adapted to the good that person did?

Yes, my dog is technically beneath me by a couple magnitudes, but she obeys me purely for my sake because she loves me! An example of a good thing she does for me that I will never adapt to: licking my hand when she perceives that I am hurt - I'm just never gonna lick her paw, bad me. -B

...what if it so happened that people caught on that calling someone who did absolutely the most the could for you "beneath you" was actually a violent form of hate, a black and threatening hate against which survival instinct naturally cut?

Oh, I agree, this is why I don't ever say my dog is 'beneath me'. I righteously describe her as a sentient animal with whom I have a mutually beneficial relationship (or just as 'my pet'), but of course, people who hate dogs may be theoretically undermining their chance of survival, what with those studies about pets influencing health positively. - B

...what if the future came about that all those like you were isolated, trapped, subverted or passively euthanased because the threat perceived in hating - with accusations and wilful corruption - those that resisted that hate was perceived to be less existentially viable as a survival good than the greater evolved good of evolved social harmony?

This is a bit trickier, as it appears to reference some kind of science fiction future distopia where dogs are the rulers - and it seems the Bad Dogs are leading the pack, taking humans to the vet and all the awful things that implies! - B

Well, obviously, Gottservant, the sensible course of action today is to be kinder to your dog, and if this desperate future comes about, to ally yourself to the Good Dogs, who likely would have human breed rescues set up, and obedience schools and 'feed hungry feral humans' projects.

 

[eri]

None of those quotes represented my view.

Let's put it this way - do you believe in Santa Claus? Let's hope not. You know Santa Claus isn't real. Are you willing to die for that belief? Are you willing to die protesting the existence of Santa Claus? Let's hope not - that's a pretty stupid way to die. Same with me and god - I'm not going to die over something that trivial. I'll lie and get on with my life - it's not like anyone is going to be judging me for it. The fact that someone might be willing to die over something as stupid as creationism is just mind-boggling.

There are things I might be willing to die for, but they don't include ideas - they include people.

 

[sbvera13]

Quoi? Je ne compris pas.

 

[LewisWildermuth]

Oh, oh! I know! This is about dogs!



Well, obviously, Gottservant, the sensible course of action today is to be kinder to your dog, and if this desperate future comes about, to ally yourself to the Good Dogs, who likely would have human breed rescues set up, and obedience schools and 'feed hungry feral humans' projects.

I welcome and support our new dog masters! Long live the dog king!!

 

[pgp_protector]

I welcome and support our new dog masters! Long live the dog king!!

I thought it was dog overlords ?

 

[LewisWildermuth]

I thought it was dog overlords ?

They are only overlords to those that did not support them or treat them with the reverence and awe that they deserved.

For those of us who saw the writing on the wall and supported them and worshiped them properly, they will be kindly masters.

Repent of your anti-dog ways now and be saved!!

 

[Skaloop]

I wouldn't die for evolution. There's no point. Evolution stands or falls on the evidence and its own merits, and so far it stands tall. It doesn't need me to die for it. There may be a few people I would die for, but I would never die for a belief, and I especially wouldn't die for a sound scientific theory.

Dying for a belief tends to lend some credence to that belief. That's why dying for it is valued by those who share that belief. But dying for a theory like evolution has no effect whatsoever on its veracity, because it does not rely on personal conviction or sacrifice, but rather observed facts of reality.

That said, the only option in your poll that is at all reasonable for me is to abandon evolution, should new evidence show it to be incorrect. A long shot to be sure, but a slim possibility nonetheless.

 

[[serious]]

Word salad much? Please try to organize that mess of words into something a little clearer.

 

[RealityCheck]

.... sorry, was that English?

 

[trivista]

...what if the one evolved creature that ever did something purely for your sake was to you so technically beneath you that you never adapted to the good that person did?

...what if it so happened that people caught on that calling someone who did absolutely the most the could for you "beneath you" was actually a violent form of hate, a black and threatening hate against which survival instinct naturally cut?

...what if the future came about that all those like you were isolated, trapped, subverted or passively euthanased because the threat perceived in hating - with accusations and wilful corruption - those that resisted that hate was perceived to be less existentially viable as a survival good than the greater evolved good of evolved social harmony?

I like cheeseburgers!

 

[ReverendDG]

...what if the one evolved creature that ever did something purely for your sake was to you so technically beneath you that you never adapted to the good that person did?

...what if it so happened that people caught on that calling someone who did absolutely the most the could for you "beneath you" was actually a violent form of hate, a black and threatening hate against which survival instinct naturally cut?

...what if the future came about that all those like you were isolated, trapped, subverted or passively euthanased because the threat perceived in hating - with accusations and wilful corruption - those that resisted that hate was perceived to be less existentially viable as a survival good than the greater evolved good of evolved social harmony?

LOL WUT?!

 

[Tomk80]

(Ladies and gentlemen, I submit that Gottservant may be in fact a deeply disturbed individual. Remember that those who believe absurdities can always find justification for atrocities, and religion is among the most absurd phenomena.)

This I comletely agree with. Combined with the fact that Gottservant is completely unable to create an opening post that is logically coherent, or coherent in any other form.

 

[Deadbolt]

Anyone who understood that needs like..a medal or something.
Anyone who both understands it and agrees with it ought to be locked up in a padded room.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

...what if the one evolved creature that ever did something purely for your sake was to you so technically beneath you that you never adapted to the good that person did?

I don't understand the question. If this hypothetical scenario happened, then... what?

...what if it so happened that people caught on that calling someone who did absolutely the most the could for you "beneath you" was actually a violent form of hate, a black and threatening hate against which survival instinct naturally cut?

If that happened to me, I'd be surprised why I considered them 'beneath me' in the first place. I am, for instance, a passionate supporter in the Great Ape Project. However, if I found myself in such a position, I would tell such people to mind their own business. The creature helps me of its own free will (if I have understood this hypothetical scenario well enough).

...what if the future came about that all those like you were isolated, trapped, subverted or passively euthanased because the threat perceived in hating - with accusations and wilful corruption - those that resisted that hate was perceived to be less existentially viable as a survival good than the greater evolved good of evolved social harmony?

If such a future occured, I would have no option but to remain in isolation. I would, of course, try to reestablish human civilisation, but I think it would be in vain.

Gottservent, what does this have to do with evolution?

 

[Gottservant]

Gottservent, what does this have to do with evolution?

Evolution denigrates the ancestry and personage of someone who did absolutely everything He could for everyone.

If, as I do, you recognize such denigration as hate, the question remains what is to be done about the hatred that is "evolution".

The supposition that evolution could in fact be used to justify the oppression of those who believe in it simply substantiates that evolution is evil.

 

[Gottservant]

Oh, oh! I know! This is about dogs!

Your response is ingenious and I am glad you recognise there is room to show compassion (regardless of the subject) in the present, even if you define the past with hate.

What do you suppose it is that gives you the freedom to hate someone's past and then turn a smile for them (so to speak)?

I am taught that it is the conscience, something that could only occur by Design.