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Godisgr8r said:
Well, I don't believe that God has promised us happiness, so it is completely possible.

well the Bible tells us that living for Jesus, we are likely to suffer persecution and that also the devil is fighting against us 24/7 to tear us down and blind us... however.. Jesus did say "I have come that they may life and have it more abundantly!" i think its in John.
 
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I don't know, I've heard it before and imot it just sounds like something churned out to gloss over the fact that there are many christians in the world who are having unhappy marriages. If you can push out the party line that marriage makes people holy and it's intention is not to bring happiness then some poor people are going to put up and shut up and not call it quits on their marriage.
 
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This makes it seem like the two are incompatible.

The holier God makes me, the happier I become.

The more like God he makes me - the less I worry about the stress and worries of this world.

The process of ripping off dead flesh is not too much fun, but I am learning lately to just say okay God do what you want as I probably don't need that thing anyway.

God is moving in a new and HUGE way in my life and I am able to submit to my husband's authority much easier and even ask for forgiveness when I see that I've blown it to bits. Now understand this is a man who WOULD NOT lead for fifteen years. I honor his faith in tithing with JOY instead of insisting we give til it hurts.

To me, Holiness is the source of my happiness.
 
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nowhereville said:
To me, Holiness is the source of my happiness.

Exactly! :thumbsup:

God tells us how to run our marriages and how to be holy, and though it often goes against the grain to do what He says, when we do we find that it makes us happier anyway.

I agree. Doing things God's way may be harder in the short term and not at all self-gratifying at that moment, but in the long term it brings great happiness, joy and contentment than purely seeking our own happiness would.
 
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tryinghard said:
We are never told we will be happy in our lives. We will have joy but that is different. I do think God created marriage not to make us holy but to keep us holy.

well im certainly not holy so im not going to claim God created marriage so that I'd stay holy because im not!

my perspective is that God wants to mould and make us more and more like Him each day :)
 
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What's the point of being married if there isn't some sort of happiness attached to it? I agree, in a Christian marriage that is one of the goals. To edify and encourage each other.
However...
I think the point is a bit ridiculous. If all I wanted was to be more holy I can't, in the final analysis of things, rely on anyone else to do that for me. I'm the only one that can make that decision and move towards holiness. And if I am marrying just to be more "holy", then that isn't just ridiculous it's wrong.
If you want to be more "holy" become a priest, minister, or team up with an "accountability partner".
If you want to spend the rest of your life with someone who, by and large, makes you happy and who you couldn't imagine being without: get married. "Holiness" will just be a by-product of a healthy union.
Just a note, I've always hated the world "holy" as it is applied to just plain flesh and blood like myself. God is holy, and altogether perfect. I'm just a flawed human being. Holy implies perfection, a state none of us this side of heaven will ever reach.
Jeeeebuuuusss....what a crazy notion!
 
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mlukas said:
Just a note, I've always hated the world "holy" as it is applied to just plain flesh and blood like myself. God is holy, and altogether perfect. I'm just a flawed human being. Holy implies perfection, a state none of us this side of heaven will ever reach.
Jeeeebuuuusss....what a crazy notion!
Technically true, I suppose, but I have come to believe that there can be (and ought to be) something very holy, perfect and (almost) sinless in the spiritual communion we experience in our marriage beds. It's sort of a little gift of unfallen Eden given back to us in those moments.

I know that wasn't really what the OP was thinking of, but it was the first thing that came to my mind. And, yes, in other matters too, I believe that any good relationship, especially marriage, should encourage and strengthen us to live in greater obedience and love.
 
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