What if it's just not a witch hunt?

[rambot]

But what if Trump is actually doingb things? Remember how his business practices are run? He's got lawsuits out the tuccous. Why should it be rational to believe anything else he touches would be free of this dishonesty? By his fruits you'll know the guy; it's not like his lying can be denied. Well, what if what is happening is actually happenning?


What if it's all real? What if every story we hear about trump's malfiscience is true? What if only half is true? Do governments hand impeachments out like candy or what if there is legal weight and fact supporting it?

What if he is a manipulative narcissist? Would it run counter to the story of his life this far? In what way has Donald Trump shone for the betterment of mankind? There are so many absolutely terrible stories about him. Where are all the bubbly stories of how great or compassionate he is. Where are the High school buddies saying he's a real stand up guy? Old school friends saying how much he cared about America.
Or what a considerate 1st, 2nd, or 3rd husband or father? What if is not those things. What if he was a dispassionate distant figure?

What if you were wrong and he was not "good"?

Would it matter? So long as your policies are supported?

If democracy was compromised by your party; if years of disenfranchisement of so many came to a head and you benefitted, would it matter to you?

Would anything else matter?

 

[Triumvirate]

It's a lot of excuse-making for a very consistent pattern of behaviour.

But hey. They'll have received their reward in full, so to speak.

 

[Strathos]

If even 10% of it is true, he's unfit to be President.

 

[JackRT]

Both the Trump administration and a very large portion of his base have become detached from reality. It is painful to see how easily people are duped and can't see it in spite of massive evidence to the contrary.

 

[Triumvirate]

Both the Trump administration and a very large portion of his base have become detached from reality. It is painful to see how easily people are duped and can't see it in spite of massive evidence to the contrary.

The longer it goes on and the worse it gets, the harder it gets for them to admit how utterly badly they cocked this up.

 

[Vylo]

We have a graph on convictions? nixon was hard to beat.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

What if you were wrong and he was not "good"?

Would it matter? So long as your policies are supported?

I know he's no saint. No, it doesn't matter. It's results that I'm concerned with. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[royal priest]

But what if Trump is actually doingb things? Remember how his business practices are run? He's got lawsuits out the tuccous. Why should it be rational to believe anything else he touches would be free of this dishonesty? By his fruits you'll know the guy; it's not like his lying can be denied. Well, what if what is happening is actually happenning?


What if it's all real? What if every story we hear about trump's malfiscience is true? What if only half is true? Do governments hand impeachments out like candy or what if there is legal weight and fact supporting it?

What if he is a manipulative narcissist? Would it run counter to the story of his life this far? In what way has Donald Trump shone for the betterment of mankind? There are so many absolutely terrible stories about him. Where are all the bubbly stories of how great or compassionate he is. Where are the High school buddies saying he's a real stand up guy? Old school friends saying how much he cared about America.
Or what a considerate 1st, 2nd, or 3rd husband or father? What if is not those things. What if he was a dispassionate distant figure?

What if you were wrong and he was not "good"?

Would it matter? So long as your policies are supported?

If democracy was compromised by your party; if years of disenfranchisement of so many came to a head and you benefitted, would it matter to you?

Would anything else matter?

I used to vote for the candidate that best aligned with my conservative values which ended up being a fringe candidate that didn't have any hope of being elected. Now, like many Americans, I compromise my vote in hopes to elect the lesser of the two evils that will lead my amazing country. Trump gets my vote because he is viciously opposed Marxist globalization. I fear that a Biden/Harris ticket will make the democracy in this country indiscernible by the end of Her first term.

 

[Under One King]

Both the Trump administration and a very large portion of his base have become detached from reality. It is painful to see how easily people are duped and can't see it in spite of massive evidence to the contrary.

Funny, I would say the same about you.

 

[Triumvirate]

I know he's no saint. No, it doesn't matter. It's results that I'm concerned with. Why is that so hard to understand?

Results at any cost? Yeah we get it just fine thanks

 

[Triumvirate]

Funny, I would say the same about you.

BoTh SiDeS

 

[Under One King]

BoTh SiDeS

Exactly. But one side is right and one is wrong, and both believe they are in the right.

 

[Triumvirate]

Exactly. But one side is right and one is wrong, and both believe they are in the right.

Yeah, the Trump fans are the wrong side, spoiler alert.

They have to lie to themselves and others to make graphs like the one in the OP (and others, like covid death rates) magically "disappear" and not become a problem anymore.

 

[Under One King]

Yeah, the Trump fans are the wrong side, spoiler alert.

They have to lie to themselves and others to make graphs like the one in the OP (and others, like covid death rates) magically "disappear" and not become a problem anymore.

Ah, but of course you would say that, seeing as you're on that side. Of course you think your right. But guess what? You just may be wrong. I might actually be on the right side. We'll find out for sure in the end, yeah?

 

[Triumvirate]

Ah, but of course you would say that, seeing as you're on that side. Of course you think your right. But guess what? You just may be wrong. I might actually be on the right side. We'll find out for sure in the end, yeah?

Of course mate, there's literally no way of telling any of this apart come on now

 

[Under One King]

Of course mate, there's literally no way of telling any of this apart come on now

And what's your point?

 

[Triumvirate]

And what's your point?

You're peddling a false equivalence

 

[rambot]

I know he's no saint. No, it doesn't matter. It's results that I'm concerned with. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because he's breaking the law. Because other people's vote won't count.

And some people think that carries weight.

 

[rambot]

I used to vote for the candidate that best aligned with my conservative values which ended up being a fringe candidate that didn't have any hope of being elected. Now, like many Americans, I compromise my vote in hopes to elect the lesser of the two evils that will lead my amazing country. Trump gets my vote because he is viciously opposed Marxist globalization. I fear that a Biden/Harris ticket will make the democracy in this country indiscernible by the end of Her first term.

If you could precisely describe the differences between Trotskyist globalization and Marxist globalization, I would agree your fear maybe rational and well informed.

As it is, can I take it as read as, no, nothing else matters?

 

[rambot]

Exactly. But one side is right and one is wrong, and both believe they are in the right.

Belief means nothing.