Plan 9 said:
Yes YOU ARE ALL atheists if you have not succumb to the almighty word of God!
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What if evolution was proven false?
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Yes YOU ARE ALL atheists if you have not succumb to the almighty word of God!
mo.mentum said:
You will not find intelligence in a science forum. I get my intelligence Sunday Mornings!!! Jesus is intelligence!
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Gracchus said:Just the usual: Creationists, Christians, atheists and agnostics who can't agree on definitions, reverting to ridicule and invective when the frustration level gets to high.
You mean we don't agree yet?
I thought I cleared that up for us.....
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MySavior said:
Well I don't believe in macro-evolution (you know, evolving from nothing or a singularity) and I believe in spontaneous creation, but I don't think it's fair to say that people who believe it or consider it a possibility are morons.
People said the same about Einstein, and I believe Galileo was threatened to be hanged.
Even if evolution is wrong, innovation and discovery cannot come from idle minds.
Can't find, if you don't search.
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Badfish said:
My apologies if you've already explained your position on this badfish, but what do you mean by "macroevolution"?
It sounds as though you are talking biology on one hand, and cosmology on the other.
Just curious...
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bagfullofsnakes said:
I'm not sure, I'm Christian and believe that God created us just the way we are.
IOW, I don't believe that we just appeared one day, or evolved from a singularity. I know evolution doesn't really address first causes and such, so it's just a blanket statement.
However I don't ignore sciences, I am learning.
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Badfish said:
So, if I may paraphrase, your "beef" is with a naturalistic origin of the universe. All the big-bang, creation ex nihlo, type stuff, right?
Are you "OK" with the biological theory of evolution, recognizing that it does not exclude a creator?
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bagfullofsnakes said:
Actually when God created the cosmos it could have been a big bang, so basically I really don't know.
I am ok with the theory, the atheist version does exclude a creator I believe, agnostic would probably include the possibility of a creator..
What if humanity was brought forth like the Big Bang only accelerated and not through evolution of species? Like every species was made after its own kind?
I probably already brought that up, so nevermind.
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"agnostic would probably include the possibility of a creator"
Then its good for christian scientists, that science is Agnostic.
"What if humanity was brought forth like the Big Bang only accelerated and not through evolution of species? Like every species was made after its own kind?"
There would be evidence.
However, there is no evidence for it, but lots against.
Then its good for christian scientists, that science is Agnostic.
"What if humanity was brought forth like the Big Bang only accelerated and not through evolution of species? Like every species was made after its own kind?"
There would be evidence.
However, there is no evidence for it, but lots against.
Badfish said:Actually when God created the cosmos it could have been a big bang, so basically I really don't know.
I am ok with the theory, the atheist version does exclude a creator I believe, agnostic would probably include the possibility of a creator..
What if humanity was brought forth like the Big Bang only accelerated and not through evolution of species? Like every species was made after its own kind?
I probably already brought that up, so nevermind.
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Isaiah 40:22
Job 26:7
Job 26:10
These verses prove the validity of the cosmology of the bible.
Oh, and being legalistic about this will not work. Look up round in the dictionary!
The word Sphere i don't think was even invented.
The bible was written in layman terms, not scientific terms.
The bible has the oldest, most reliable cosmology!!
Whenever the bible touches on science, it is totally accurate!
The bible has always been ahead of the times.
Evolution has nothing to do with science.
The evolution topic should be in the politics sections of this forum.
Politics is all it ever really was.
I have Darwins confessions that state clearly that his unformed ideas took like wildfire.People made a religion out of them.
Like Jesus is to christianity, Darwin is to Evolution.
Darwin has been checkmated!!
Darwin even acknowledges the existence of God.
So why then, are we still debating this finnished debate?
Job 26:7
Job 26:10
These verses prove the validity of the cosmology of the bible.
Oh, and being legalistic about this will not work. Look up round in the dictionary!
The word Sphere i don't think was even invented.
The bible was written in layman terms, not scientific terms.
The bible has the oldest, most reliable cosmology!!
Whenever the bible touches on science, it is totally accurate!
The bible has always been ahead of the times.
Evolution has nothing to do with science.
The evolution topic should be in the politics sections of this forum.
Politics is all it ever really was.
I have Darwins confessions that state clearly that his unformed ideas took like wildfire.People made a religion out of them.
Like Jesus is to christianity, Darwin is to Evolution.
Darwin has been checkmated!!
Darwin even acknowledges the existence of God.
So why then, are we still debating this finnished debate?
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"Isaiah 40:22"
Isa 40:22** [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Whats a circle?
For a bit more info that I wrote about this, see,
http://www.geocities.com/arikayx/flatearth.html
"Job 26:7
Job 26:10"
Maybe you can explain these more.
"These verses prove the validity of the cosmology of the bible."
They dont seem to to me.
"The bible was written in layman terms, not scientific terms."
Exactly, which is why you probably shouldn't try to use it as a science book.
"Whenever the bible touches on science, it is totally accurate!"
Really? Im sure those who used the bible to support the inaccurate Geocentric Theory would disagree.
"Evolution has nothing to do with science."
Maybe back this up? Explain this more.
"I have Darwins confessions that state clearly that his unformed ideas took like wildfire.People made a religion out of them."
Where?
"Darwin even acknowledges the existence of God."
Yep.
But then again, since Evolution Does Not equal atheism It is possible to accept Evolution and God.
Isa 40:22** [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Whats a circle?
For a bit more info that I wrote about this, see,
http://www.geocities.com/arikayx/flatearth.html
"Job 26:7
Job 26:10"
Maybe you can explain these more.
"These verses prove the validity of the cosmology of the bible."
They dont seem to to me.
"The bible was written in layman terms, not scientific terms."
Exactly, which is why you probably shouldn't try to use it as a science book.
"Whenever the bible touches on science, it is totally accurate!"
Really? Im sure those who used the bible to support the inaccurate Geocentric Theory would disagree.
"Evolution has nothing to do with science."
Maybe back this up? Explain this more.
"I have Darwins confessions that state clearly that his unformed ideas took like wildfire.People made a religion out of them."
Where?
"Darwin even acknowledges the existence of God."
Yep.
But then again, since Evolution Does Not equal atheism It is possible to accept Evolution and God.
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I thought there was some controversy whether Lady Hope actually visited Darwin on his deathbed.
Did Darwin admit this somewhere else?
Did Darwin admit this somewhere else?
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