I don't recall ever deciding that I do not want to be with Yahweh. I don't eve see how I am capable of making such a decision since I have never even met him.
We were all born into a life of sin. Being that the wages of unatoned sin is death. if we do not seek atonement through Jesus we automatically seek the second death/Hell. If you do not openly start and maintain with God in this life, according to scripture, you will have decided to not to have a relationship with God in the next. You can bock, buck and cluck at it if you want to deucey, just understand that that is the way it is.
No, I could not imagine a church service that lasted forever because I am incapable of imagining anything that lasts forever.
Then what are you capable of imagining? What is the Longest length of time you will sit in a church service before you are ready to go? If it is as you say, and you would gladly sit in a church service for an eternity, as apposed to burning forever, then why don't you sit in services now? How is 2-4 hours aweek too much, but an eternity an acceptable alternative?
No, there is no hypocrisy in wanting the things that Yahweh created but not wanting Yahweh.
You clearly misunderstood my question I was not asking if you thought it was hypocritical to want what God has created, but not God..
I made the assertion that it is indeed Hypocritical to want creation, but not the creator. I simply asked:
do we even have a word to describe that level of hypocrisy.
No, I do not realize that the things Yahweh created are a part of him.
Well, it is.
That would mean that I am a part of him since he created me.
Even more so than you think deucey, we have been Held above of the rest of creation, because we have been made in His image.
If I am a part of him then by going to Hell (which is also a part of him because he created it too) I would not be away of from him.
It is evident that your understanding of the term "apart of God" is incomplete. Those who Choose Hell do not take a literal piece of God to Hell with them. The term apart of God here is used to describe the relationship between creator and creation. Like the bond between Mother and Child. A Mother can say, she see apart of herself in her child. Even though Physically she still is whole.
The part of God you take, is the desire that God has for you to remain in heaven with Him. God remains Whole, and the individual get to experience what "he" understands to be the full heat of Hell without God.
I wasn't aware that Heaven uses our treasures as common building materials. I was under the impression that our treasures are on Earth. That is why we own them.
Streets of Gold.. Pearly gates.. I didn't anticipate that you would take everything that i had written so literaly. My original intention was to describe how, what we value as treasure, had been transformed into common building stock. That "Heaven' was not a paradise because of the wealth and luxury that was used in it's construction. Heaven was Heaven because God was there..
I also see according to the "zinger" you were forced to place at the end of of your paragraph in order to qualify the preceding statement. You seem well aware of my intent.
Your selective understanding and semi-literal interpretation of what is written has been dually noted.
No, if that were the case, I would want to go to Hell.
You claim to not have Not made a decision about wanting to goto Hell.. Apparently you were lying or Mistaken.
I think that fearing the alternative is a great reason for wanting something. This is how I make all my decisions. I weigh the benefits and negative aspects of each option. Then I want the one with the most benefits and least negative aspects. If there are only two options, and one of them is very very negative, I want the other. It is a very reasonable position.
So what if the other option is Very Very Very negative, and you know nothing of it?
Do you see what I did deucey? I added a Very, and capitalized the V so that would indicate it is more negative than just a very, very negative option.
How does one choose the lessor of two weevils, if he only knows of the one?
What do you know of Heaven, truly? (Please answer this on in great detail, so we all may diced it.)
With this line of reasoning, and only that line of reasoning, no I cannot know what it is I am getting into. However, when the alternative is the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen to me, I know that what I am getting myself into must be better.
Even If this is the only line of reasoning available, How is it you can not imagine an eternity because you have not personally experienced it, but yet you imagine that, Heaven is somehow better than Hell if you refuse a personal relationship with God?
How is it you can power your imagination into action, when it suits the progression of a weak argument, and yet somehow your imagination seems closed to all other illustrations?
If you maintained your requirement for literal purity, I would be able to respect your efforts here. As it is.. Deucey!
Well, the fact that I have an infinite amount of time to change my mind is what makes me think that I would change it. Given an infinite amount of time, I can expect my opinion about everything to change. That is because infinity has no time limit.
If your mind would change one way in an infinite environment, would you not think it could change back? Why would God want to be with a person who loved him for 100 years, and plotted to take over Heaven for the next 10,000, only to have him and his brothers change their minds again?
We are told that those who are responsible with Little (in this case time) will be responsible with Much. Those who squander little that they have been given, will also squander much.
When Jesus said these words do you think He meant everyone except you?
Regardless of all of this, it puzzles me that you would even make such a post. I stated that I though sending someone to a place like how Hell is described is unethical and abhorrent. The judgment that Hell is unethical and abhorrent is subjective.
Now, I am also puzzled. if you thought my post to be off topic then why spend so much time responding to it? You seem somewhat educated, why throw your pearls of wisdom to simple swine? There have been several other posts in other threads i have made that you did not care to respond to.. so why this one, and not the others?
Did I make it too tempting this time? Did all the illustrations and semi rhetorical questions make you think explaining myself would be just too much for me to do?
I did not intentionally misrepresent myself, I just though you may be open to a less direct approach.. Apparently you are, under
certain conditions.
