What have you understood about the charcater of The Ten Commandments?? (2)

[GenemZ]

The malicious comments remain unappreciated genez.

Its sin. Do the math. get used to it.

 

[squint]

Its sin. Do the math. get used to it.

You have an observation to make genez other than the obvious fact?

 

[Elder 111]

Not at all. Do as you're led. But when you say another believer or even you are potentially damned for not owning up to your sights on these matters you're a whole different animal. Now you have a promotion to destroy. And this is what is being spoken against. The destroyer. The evil present within all men. That is never justified whenever it rears it's head.

s

If a man is a thief he is a thief and as such God would reject him. To tell a man he is wrong is what we should do. to tell him he would go to hell for s not evil either.
Ezekiel 3: 18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Sorry but I am not bearing no more than my own.

 

[Elder 111]

Personally, were I in their shoes and someone says toss away the Word of God, I would not believe they were being truthful, and would reject what they say.

I reject that approach as it is quite absurd. Gods Word was delivered to some but are for ALL. No different than Jesus coming to Israel but is also FOR ALL.

This notion that Victor tries for example where he says, in effect, show me where God directed the people of Barbados to do the Saturday Sabbath is complete nonsense. Using that approach unless Jesus or Moses spoke to us directly we might just as well toss the entire document.

That is why that approach should be totally discarded. It doesn't hold water.


Paul for example has many statements and teachings that make the Old Testament directly applicable to N.T. believers and didn't toss a single Word of same.

So you who are working that way just pooled yourselves into irresolvable boxes that won't fit and weren't meant to work anyway.

s

This is one point that I can completely agree with.

 

[squint]

If a man is a thief he is a thief and as such God would reject him. To tell a man he is wrong is what we should do. to tell him he would go to hell for s not evil either.
Ezekiel 3: 18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
Sorry but I am not bearing no more than my own.

I really don't know what you are trying to prove other than being a better sinner than some other sinner.

s

 

[Elder 111]

I really don't know what you are trying to prove other than being a better sinner than some other sinner.

s

God says if a man is wrong tell him, which say I will do and this is your reply? Come on, if you have a problem with that you are questioning God.

 

[squint]

God says if a man is wrong tell him, which say I will do and this is your reply? Come on, if you have a problem with that you are questioning God.

There is no if.

 

[Elder 111]

There is no if.

Good then I should say as it is.

 

[Elder 111]

VictorC
Romans 2:
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

If this is true, explain why God would treat the Jews and gentles differently in regards to the Ten Commandments?

 

[squint]

Good then I should say as it is.

There is no 'if' about man having sin.

Galatians 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

 

[Elder 111]

There is no condemnation of the Ten Commandments here! Paul makes it plain that it is the standard of God for both Jew and Gentle.
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

 

[squint]

There s no condemnation of the Ten Commandments here! Paul makes it plain that it is the standard o God for both Jew and Genlte.
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?

The standard can be held up all day and it can not make anyone sinless.

Sorry you think that is a path away from a truthful conclusion.

The scripture has made a conclusion that can not be changed by 'acceptable' behavior.

s

 

[Elder 111]

23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
7 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
It seems that fulfill means to carry out and not remove. That would mean that Jesus did as the law required not did away with it.

 

[squint]

23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

Every external law keeper keeps as a sinner.

 

[GenemZ]

You have an observation to make genez other than the obvious fact?

There you go again., Squint being Squint... doing his old tricks. Sucking people back in when they desire to walk away.

You live off of others by sucking the life out of them with your pseudo doctrinal understanding. You will sometimes act nice, and even present an accurate understanding, as to give them a moment to breath. Then, back to your well tested technique of human manipulation, using the Word of God as your medium of attack.


Have a nice Day.

 

[squint]

There you go again., Squint being Squint... doing his old tricks. Sucking people back in when they desire to walk away.

Don't know what you're thinking there genez. No amount of law keeping is going to make anyone sinless.

Sorry about the fact of it disappointing fantasies of sinlessness.

You live off of others by sucking the life out of them with your pseudo doctrinal understanding.

You are certainly welcome to claim yourself sinless.

s

 

[Elder 111]

The standard can be held up all day and it can not make anyone sinless.

Sorry you think that is a path away from a truthful conclusion.

The scripture has made a conclusion that can not be changed by 'acceptable' behavior.

s

You refuse to answer the question asked earlier. Do that mean we should forget about doing right. If not stop the repeating yourself with this, it is uncalled for.

 

[squint]

You refuse to answer the question asked earlier.

I accept the conclusion of the law, that I am a sinner.

No amount of lawkeeping is going to change that fact and make any keeper sinless.

Do that mean we should forget about doing right. If not stop the repeating yourself with this, it is uncalled for.

Of course not. We are to reign OVER the fact of being a sinner. We don't reign by lying or by hypocrisy.

s

 

[GenemZ]

You are certainly welcome to claim yourself sinless.

There you go again. I never claimed to be sinless. You know that.

So, why do you say that about me? It does not throw me off balance like you're used to seeing in others. It took me a few posts in which I gave you a benefit of a doubt. But, now I have no doubt that your intentions are not honorable. Matter of fact, its evil that has been sprayed with room freshener.


Why do you insist on making up what is false about another as your means to gain the ascendency in the debate? You can't win that way. You can only suck the other into becoming a fellow loser. Loser recruiting losers.


How long do you think you can keep sucking me back in to the inane? I will walk away when I want to. Right now you need to be exposed for those here whom you manipulate and twist.

Now I wonder. What part of Squint will pop up? Will you try your reasonable personality side, next? I will not be an enabler. I realize that you must have become addicted to your form of evil that places you in a place of assumed security. The devil is worried now because the devil fears light exposure. Did you know that?

Keep it up, or walk away. For, I will keep analyzing your manipulation technique, and shining a light on it. Some others here could benefit your resistance of me. For they already knew something is wrong with your thinking. They just can not define it. Its the only reason I do not simply put you where you belong. Ignore. I will use your suck-back-in technique as a means for exposing it.

People are wise to you. Keep trying to suck me back in with misrepresentations of who I am. Things said that would demand I defend myself against a lie about myself. And, I will simply keep exposing you until enough here are very wise about your ways.

Then you'll have to find another forum? Or, just keep sucking in newbies to your technique?

.... Much light makes a man squint.

 

[from scratch]

VictorC
Romans 2:
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

If this is true, explain why God would treat the Jews and gentles differently in regards to the Ten Commandments?

IOW one doesn't need Jesus to be justified. The main trouble with your point is there are none as the Psalms point out.

Perhaps you can tell us why the rich young ruler left sad instead of rejoicing. Jesus didn't disagree with his testimony.