What has President Trump's time in office done to you, personally?

[Mountain_Girl406]

How did Trump make your kids afraid of climate change? Are you sure that's not something you did to them?

And why are they afraid of nuclear war? Did you let them know that Obama and Clinton allowed NK to acquire nukes?

It sounds like most of this stuff you mention is self inflicted. Sounds like you've made some bad choices and are blaming it on Trump.

I am teaching my children the science about climate change, how it is a significant problem and one that needs our attention. They watch the news and learn that our administration doesn't see it as such. Thus they are more concerned as they are facing a future that include the effects of this delay.
As for nuclear war, I've been aware of the varying threats since I watched the duck and cover films as a child in school. I had hoped we had moved a bit past that, but an unstable president that texts schoolyard taunts about the size of his button moves us closer to such threats.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

I'm frightened of nuclear war, too, but I don't see President Trump as the cause. I agree with the President on Climate Change-let's get some legislation that actually does something about it, and we'll listen. Government subsidies to Tesla and windmills and solar companies don't do that. Racial hatred changed during the previous administration. Regarding CHIP, there is a proposal in this government shutdown debate to keep it going. Regarding DOE funding, you DO realize that the Department of Education educates no one? That the Department of Energy provides none? Also, if the public universities were more university-like, meaning that the free exchange of ideas is respected, there would be some love between the president and the University systems.

Where has President Trump stayed that he is willing to consider legislation that will meaningfully mitigate climate change?
I've been an engineering faculty member at a public university for much if my career, and educated at public universities and completely disagree with your assessment of public education.

 

[DZoolander]

I can't defend some of the dumb things he says but in general I feel as if he was elected because democrats embrace too much politically correct insanity in the way they vilify so much of the things America was founded on. I think there is hope for America since people have clearly rejected that. The best example I can give is that I didn't have to quietly whisper Merry Christmas at work.

Ya know if your company says that you need to say happy holidays instead of merry Christmas, that’s a decision your company has made and has nothing to do with the govt, right?

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

Since none of President Trump's budget or policies re healthcare and/or CHIP have kicked in, he can't be blamed for whatever has happened to your children's friends. The House just passed a bill that would keep the government open for awhile longer and would also extend children's healthcare benefits for another six years. The Senate Democrats say they won't vote for it because it doesn't provide amnesty for illegal immigrants in this country. The President favors the House bill.

So who are you going to blame if the Senate Democrats plus two or three Republicans kill it and shut down the government? Senate Democrats who care more about illegal immigrants or more accurately the Democratic votes they provide than they care about you and/or your children's friends? Or will you blame the President who had nothing to do with it?

I am hugely appreciative, and feel much safer, with President Trump at the helm looking out for American interests and security even as he is willing to cut some deals that would be humane for the DACA kids. Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, women, pretty much all groups are already benefiting. He is a good man who is doing his best to do good things for America. And it is yielding a happier America except for the haters who go into meltdown almost every day. But since I am not one of them, a happier America is a happier me.

CHIP expired in September, because the congressonal Republicans were working to kill Obama care. Trump has contradicted himself about where he stands on it in recent days, as well as contradicting himself about DACA, making it difficult for any bipartisan group of legislators to come up with a plan he'll accept. So, maybe you can lay the blame for CHIP on the congressional Republicans as much as Trump.

I don't think one can avoid placing some of the blame for the recent increase in overt racism on Trump. The latest story is the an example, regardless of language used, Trump sent the message that people from Africa are somehow inferior to other potential immigrants to this country.

 

[Haramis]

It's made me realize that what I previously believed to be a fallacy is true. "Both sides do it equally" isn't so far off after all.

I used to think it was only Republicans suffering from wild eyed delusions during Obama's presidency. Now Trump is president and I see a non-stop hair on fire freak out from my side. Even though Trump has basically done absolutely nothing in the last year.

It's just non-stop "OMG did you hear what Trump tweeted!"

It's like, seriously stop. Trump's tweets only have the power that you give them. Ignore his tweets and they mean nothing. The entire world has revolved around Trump for the last two years. Trump is accomplishing nothing. He wouldn't stand a chance at re-election if you'd just ignore him. Keep giving him attention at your own peril. Clinton fell short during 24-7 Trumporama, why are you so certain that Gillibrand/Cuomo/etc will do any better?

Talking about how horrible Trump is only makes him stronger. Ignore him and watch him wilt into irrelevance.

 

[Galaxy Hunter]

Ya know if your company says that you need to say happy holidays instead of merry Christmas, that’s a decision your company has made and has nothing to do with the govt, right?

Sure it's a decision the company made but why did the company make it? It was because Obama was president and his politically correct influence was permeating society. Enough Americans tired of it and now that voters have rejected that hateful mentality it feels like we actually have free speech again.

 

[Foxfyre]

It's ok. I expected it. I could have allowed all posts without comment, but felt that didn't invite discourse. It's ok to disagree, even if I'm sure they're wrong.

I'm sorry but thoughtful and honest disagreement is fine and nobody should be offended by that on most topics. But an insult and mischaracterizing what you said is not okay as disagreement.

 

[Foxfyre]

I found this one curious. Have you compared the tax benefit you stand to get relative to the tax benefit he stands to get?

I don't care what anybody else gets. I appreciate a President who understands and appreciates that I will likely spend my money more wisely and do more good with it than the government will ever do spending my money for me. I also appreciate a President who doesn't expect people to be needy pitiful victims and 'woe is me' but rather be Americans who will appreciate and take advantage of more opportunity to become more prosperous.

 

[Foxfyre]

CHIP expired in September, because the congressonal Republicans were working to kill Obama care. Trump has contradicted himself about where he stands on it in recent days, as well as contradicting himself about DACA, making it difficult for any bipartisan group of legislators to come up with a plan he'll accept. So, maybe you can lay the blame for CHIP on the congressional Republicans as much as Trump.

I don't think one can avoid placing some of the blame for the recent increase in overt racism on Trump. The latest story is the an example, regardless of language used, Trump sent the message that people from Africa are somehow inferior to other potential immigrants to this country.

The House just voted to take care of healthcare for kids for the next six years. The Senate Democrats refused to accept the House bill because it did not provide amnesty for DACA people, something the Republicans had agreed to take up next.

 

[DZoolander]

I don't care what anybody else gets. I appreciate a President who understands and appreciates that I will likely spend my money more wisely and do more good with it than the government will ever do spending my money for me. I also appreciate a President who doesn't expect people to be needy pitiful victims and 'woe is me' but rather be Americans who will appreciate and take advantage of more opportunity to become more prosperous.

So in other words, you’re keeping quiet because they threw you a little bone while enriching themselves

 

[DZoolander]

Sure it's a decision the company made but why did the company make it? It was because Obama was president and his politically correct influence was permeating society. Enough Americans tired of it and now that voters have rejected that hateful mentality it feels like we actually have free speech again.

The contrast between what people think is true and what is actually true has always been interesting to me

 

[Mountainmanbob]

So many people hate what the President "stands for" or what he says, or just have a general bias. I want to know what President Trump's policies have done to hurt you, personally, or help you, personally. Concrete things:

For example "I got a bonus from my company directly attributable to President Trump's tax cut." Or "I lost my job because President Trump has cut my government job."

In my experience, other than raising or lowering my taxes, no president has had an effect on me, personally.

Two business owners in our family that employ hundreds of employees are excited regarding less regulations and look forward to growth (directly related to Trump). Note -- they hated Obama's policies.

Me -- enjoying Trump's standing strong in the world's eye.
Stock market -- looking like my sweet retirement monies will continue.

M-Bob

 

[Galaxy Hunter]

The contrast between what people think is true and what is actually true has always been interesting to me

Have you ever head the old saying "politics is all about perception"? The perception is that Obama is anti-Christian. It's not just perception. Don't you remember when he criticized folks who "cling to guns and religion"? There is a website called wallbuilders. I assume it's still around. I haven't looked at it lately. It has a ton of listed items that prove Obama doesn't like Christians. Actions speak louder than words.

 

[FenderTL5]

..Don't you remember when he criticized folks who "cling to guns and religion"?

I remember the event clearly and you have mischaracterized the statement.
Obama was asked, (in effect) why it is difficult for a democrat to be successful in some rural parts of the country, even though voting Republican is against their own interest.
Obama's response was, instead of voting for a government that would help them, they
cling.."
As far as I know that was neither a criticism nor compliment but a statement of fact. Further, almost every evangelical I know proved it was a statement of fact by making it their mantra.

Here's the audio of his remark - sans the preceding question, which puts it in context.

 

[FenderTL5]

Referencing my previous post here:
Going beyond what I have already said - Donald Trump took those exact issues, those who are bitter about a government that fails their communities, their "clinging" to guns, religion and anti-immigrant, etc and used those very issues to build a coalition of voters. Proving Obama was spot on correct in his assessment.

Disclosure/disclaimer: I did not vote for Obama; not a single time.

 

[DZoolander]

Have you ever head the old saying "politics is all about perception"? The perception is that Obama is anti-Christian. It's not just perception. Don't you remember when he criticized folks who "cling to guns and religion"? There is a website called wallbuilders. I assume it's still around. I haven't looked at it lately. It has a ton of listed items that prove Obama doesn't like Christians. Actions speak louder than words.

People read things the way they want to read them, plus people also for political expediency give partial quotes/etc that re-enforce those desired beliefs. And I mean that. Desired beliefs. People want to believe that, so they look for "evidence" to support those positions.

Kind of like when people talk about how Hillary supported partial birth abortions up until very late in the pregnancy. There's a distinction between understanding that there might be cases where that's appropriate and therefore being unwilling to outright ban it - and "supporting" it.

But truthful nuance really appears to have no place in politics. It's whatever soundbyte you can get going to rile up the base.

Like when Romney ran. Was there really anything wrong with him saying that 47% of the people would vote against him no matter what? No - that was basically just an observation of partisan fact. Just like roughly 47% would vote against Obama, regardless of what he may say. People are loyal to their team. Romney wasn't saying anything wrong...but people lept on it.

Just like when Obama said the "you didn't build that" thing. Did he mean what people spun it into? No...lol Same thing.

Huge swaths of our population simply want to support "their team". Every factoid that crosses their path is therefore judged in that context.

 

[DZoolander]

(additional thought...lol)

Then you get into the phenomenon where people are willing to accept pure fantasy to advance a political agenda. Best example - Joe the Plumber from 2008.

If you don't have a good memory or were simply too young to know/remember what that is... When McCain was running against Obama for president - some guy came up to Obama after a rally to ask him a question. The question was something along the lines of "My name is Joe, I own a plumbing business where I earn over $250,000 per year, and I'm concerned about the impact your proposed taxes will have on my business."

McCain and Palin carried that schmo around for the entire campaign - citing him as an example of someone who would be hurt by Obama's proposed policies.

What was the reality though? He wasn't a plumber, he didn't have a business, he didn't earn anywhere near $250,000...and to cap it all off...his name wasn't even Joe.

That's how much fact actually matters in politics. lol

 

[Yarddog]

So many people hate what the President "stands for" or what he says, or just have a general bias. I want to know what President Trump's policies have done to hurt you, personally, or help you, personally. Concrete things:

For example "I got a bonus from my company directly attributable to President Trump's tax cut." Or "I lost my job because President Trump has cut my government job."

In my experience, other than raising or lowering my taxes, no president has had an effect on me, personally.

Nothing yet. It will take time to know the tax cuts will affect me.

Hopefully, it will be for the good but right now nothing

 

[FenderTL5]

Nothing yet. It will take time to know the tax cuts will affect me..

I'm in the same boat, nothing yet. I will have to wait and see about tax cuts. My preliminary research would indicate, not much. Maybe $5-$10 either way depending on what deductions are still allowed or if I end up not itemizing any more.

 

[Yarddog]

I'm in the same boat, nothing yet. I will have to wait and see about tax cuts. My preliminary research would indicate, not much. Maybe $5-$10 either way depending on what deductions are still allowed or if I end up not itemizing any more.

Yes, but we will not be affected by those until the next tax year.