What Happens when Oil Runs Out?

[Radrook]

I saw "the day the earth stood still" a couple weeks ago.
Aside from thinking it was a pretty bad movie, there was one thing that I liked quite a lot near the end.

That idea that "humans show their true colours in crisis". And their "true colours" being positive things like creativity, solidarity, etc. It can certainly be argued that the opposite is actually true, lol...

But I think that nothing can and will prepare society sufficiently well to accomodate for a "smooth" transition of literally an oil-based economy to "something else".

It's painfully clear that big business is simply going to squeeze everything they get out of it and finally, the shortage is going to slap the economic society SO HARD in the face, the entire system will collapse and we'll have to make some radical choices which will change everything.

I think the society of next century is going to be virtually irrecognisable. But I have no clue in what way. But I fully expect it to be on the scale of 1902 vs 2017.

I agree that the greed will take us to the brink. Glad I won't be around to see it.

 

[pat34lee]

We were running out of oil in the 70's, yet we have more today than back then, not counting secondary sources such as shale oil. Could it be that oil is not a limited 'fossil fuel'?
Discovery backs theory oil not ‘fossil fuel’

 

[Radrook]

We were running out of oil in the 70's, yet we have more today than back then, not counting secondary sources such as shale oil. Could it be that oil is not a limited 'fossil fuel'?
Discovery backs theory oil not ‘fossil fuel’

How do you propose that it is being replenished?

 

[SkyWriting]

This video provides a very informative explanation about what would occur once our oil runs out and concerning the alternatives that might be employed in order to get mankind on its feet once more industrially.

There is some cheap oil, some expensive.
The same is true for all energy sources.
All energy resources are infinite in supply.
As the price goes up for any one resource
others fill the market as prices rise.

 

[SkyWriting]

How do you propose that it is being replenished?

The abiotic theory argues, in contrast, that hydrocarbons are naturally produced on a continual basis throughout the solar system, including within the mantle of the earth. The advocates believe the oil seeps up through bedrock cracks to deposit in sedimentary rock. Traditional petro-geologists, they say, have confused the rock as the originator rather than the depository of the hydrocarbons. Discovery backs theory oil not ‘fossil fuel’

 

[Radrook]

There is some cheap oil, some expensive.
The same is true for all energy sources.
All energy resources are infinite in supply.
As the price goes up for any one resource
others fill the market as prices rise.

There are two kinds of resources

Of course you can try to shift from one energy source to another. That has never been an issue.

 

[SkyWriting]

There are two kinds of resources

Of course you can try to shift from one energy source to another. That has never been an issue.

And as you do, this leaves behind some quantity of your original material for use.
All resources are infinite. The matter used-up when bombing Japan was the weight of one dime.

 

[Radrook]

And as you do, this leaves behind some quantity of your original material for use.
All resources are infinite. The matter used-up when bombing Japan was the weight of one dime.

Yes, I am aware that matter isn't destroyed but merely changes form. But you seem to be arguing that there shouldn't be an energy crisis because of it. Correct?

 

[Loudmouth]

The abiotic theory argues, in contrast, that hydrocarbons are naturally produced on a continual basis throughout the solar system, including within the mantle of the earth. The advocates believe the oil seeps up through bedrock cracks to deposit in sedimentary rock. Traditional petro-geologists, they say, have confused the rock as the originator rather than the depository of the hydrocarbons. Discovery backs theory oil not ‘fossil fuel’

World Net Daily is a fake news site. It isn't a valid source for scientific findings.

 

[Loudmouth]

We were running out of oil in the 70's, yet we have more today than back then, not counting secondary sources such as shale oil. Could it be that oil is not a limited 'fossil fuel'?
Discovery backs theory oil not ‘fossil fuel’

We can trace oil back to the source rock, and it does come from fossils.

 

[SkyWriting]

We can trace oil back to the source rock, and it does come from fossils.

Impossible. Fossils are impressions left in rocks.
They are images in rock and not organic material.

 

[Loudmouth]

Impossible. Fossils are impressions left in rocks.
They are images in rock and not organic material.

Fossils are the buried remnants of organisms. One such set of fossils is created by dead single celled photosynthsizers that settle to the bottom of the ocean. These dead single celled critters can make up a large proportion of some marine sediments. Over time, those dead cells decompose into a soup of hydrocarbons. If those hydrocarbons are buried, put under pressure, heated, and capped so they can't escape, then you get oil. The heat and pressure drives off oxygen in the anaerobic conditions within the source rocks. This allows oxygen to be reintroduced later to produce excess energy, such as in the combustion chamber of an engine.

 

[SkyWriting]

World Net Daily is a fake news site. It isn't a valid source for scientific findings.

These on your fake list as well?

Endless Oil? - Forbes

Abiotic Oil a Theory Worth Exploring | USNEWS.com

 

[Loudmouth]

These on your fake list as well?

Endless Oil? - Forbes

Abiotic Oil a Theory Worth Exploring | USNEWS.com

They accurately report the supporters of the theory as a fringe group, which they are.

 

[SkyWriting]

They accurately report the supporters of the theory as a fringe group, which they are.

So science is based on the democratic principle
that the majority is right? Popular opinion poles.

 

[Loudmouth]

So science is based on the democratic principle
that the majority is right? Popular opinion poles.

The scientific consensus is based on the evidence, which supports biotic origin for the vast majority of oil.

 

[pat34lee]

We can trace oil back to the source rock, and it does come from fossils.

Part of a quote from the article.

"Traditional petro-geologists, they say, have confused the rock as the originator rather than the depository of the hydrocarbons."

How would they know the difference? Answer, there is no way.

 

[pat34lee]

World Net Daily is a fake news site. It isn't a valid source for scientific findings.

Sorry, non-responsive answer. Please stick to facts and not your opinions of sources. Prove the assertions wrong or fake, if you can.

 

[SkyWriting]

There are two kinds of resources
Of course you can try to shift from one energy source to another. That has never been an issue.

100's of resources. More than two. There is a limit to how much sun hits the earth
and limits on how much room we have to collect it. But most other resources have no limits. Oh, and we don't want to interfere with wind patterns to much. The Butterfly Effect and all that.

 

[SkyWriting]

They accurately report the supporters of the theory as a fringe group, which they are.

So now you are shifting your complaints away from the source?
I guess the source was OK after all, in your book.