What happens after the second coming?

[David Garcia]

What happens after Jesus Returns and takes The Believers, and after the wicked has been dealt with? Does life on earth live on forever? Or does God destroy the earth? What happens to the universe? Does it cease to exist or live on forever? Was God's purpose of creating earth just for us Humans?

 

[cfyahoo08]

What happens after Jesus Returns and takes The Believers, and after the wicked has been dealt with? Does life on earth live on forever? Or does God destroy the earth? What happens to the universe? Does it cease to exist or live on forever? Was God's purpose of creating earth just for us Humans?

There's a pot luck dinner ?

 

[joshua 1 9]

There's a pot luck dinner ?

Would the 2,000 years of the church age be a birthday party or a anniversity party? We would need to get a cake either way.

 

[joshua 1 9]

What happens after Jesus Returns and takes The Believers, and after the wicked has been dealt with? Does life on earth live on forever? Or does God destroy the earth? What happens to the universe? Does it cease to exist or live on forever? Was God's purpose of creating earth just for us Humans?

I believe that the Church age began on the day of Pentacost in 29 ad. So the end of 2,000 years will be in 2029. This will be the end of the Church age and the beginning of the Kingdom age. There could be a 7 year period of transition. I do not know if Jesus return is physical or if He lives in His people the way He does now. Then at the end of the 1,000 years there will be a new heaven and a new earth. There will be a resurrection because people will need a new body to live on the new heaven and the new earth.

According to science the Earth is billions of years old and will continue for billions of years. We are told that there will be a perfect day. Proverbs 4:18 "But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day." The universe is expanding now and eventually will shrink or contract and come back together again. In the beginning they say the universe was the size of a mustard seed. There is very little substance and we are mostly made up of energy. Because the atoms or the actual physical part of us are very small. God could very well have created all of the universe just for us believers. Everything is a lesson for us to learn from. He gives us wisdom, knowledge and understanding.

Luke 13:32 "And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected."

Genesis 22:4 "On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance."

Exodus 19 "…10 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. They must wash their clothes 11 and be prepared by the third day, for on the third day the LORD will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people. "

 

[cwo]

What happens after Jesus Returns and takes The Believers, and after the wicked has been dealt with? Does life on earth live on forever? Or does God destroy the earth? What happens to the universe? Does it cease to exist or live on forever? Was God's purpose of creating earth just for us Humans?

Read this, it explains in detail what will happen, http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/03/1...-the-bowls-of-wrath-and-inheriting-the-earth/ .

 

[sdowney717]

Read this, it explains in detail what will happen, http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/03/1...-the-bowls-of-wrath-and-inheriting-the-earth/ .

I glanced through that, but he is in error here claiming Christ returns only with the holy angels and no saints as v14 says, so watch out...

Jesus Christ Does Not Return with the Elect, but with His Holy Angels
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/02/0...turn-with-the-elect-but-with-his-holy-angels/

1 Thessalonians 4
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[drich0150]

so after everything/judgement we/saved live 1000 years in this new age, where those who got into heaven bearly, will be given time to stew/ferment. They will see those who God has rewarded greatly and then they will see themselves as basically heaven's homeless as they will not have any 'reward' saved up in heaven.. so after 1000 years of gold streets and never being hungry or thirsty Satan is released from the pit again to try and rally/claim as many malcontents as he can muster, and heaven goes to war one last time. after this satan is bound and he and his followers will be cast out forever/hell.

Then God creates a new heaven and a new earth. where we stay will be in accordance to what we have built up in this life. where we will live forever.. what will we do? we have been told we will have jobs..

I'm hoping to build, buy or be assigned to a starship, dibbs on the name enterprise. Starship captain sounds good to me.

 

[cwo]

I glanced through that, but he is in error here claiming Christ returns only with the holy angels and no saints as v14 says, so watch out...

Jesus Christ Does Not Return with the Elect, but with His Holy Angels
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/02/0...turn-with-the-elect-but-with-his-holy-angels/

1 Thessalonians 4
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

No, read this http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/02/0...turn-with-the-elect-but-with-his-holy-angels/

 

[sdowney717]

No, read this http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/02/0...turn-with-the-elect-but-with-his-holy-angels/

I already linked you to that. When Christ returns the departed alive in spirit saints are brought with Christ. The dead saints are ressurected and joined again with their living spirits. That guy also preaches soul sleeping, another error. So where are the dead who died in the Lord? They are alive and awake in heaven with Christ. Only the body is dead apart from the spirit.

 

[cwo]

I already linked you to that. When Christ returns the departed alive in spirit saints are brought with Christ. The dead saints are ressurected and joined again with their living spirits. That guy also preaches soul sleeping, another error. So where are the dead who died in the Lord? They are alive and awake in heaven with Christ. Only the body is dead apart from the spirit.

Thats not the case, because even in the epistle we read that the dead in christ will be raised and JOINED with those who were alive on the earth to BOTH MEET CHRIST IN THE AIR. Meaning both groups were not with christ BEFORE he came. The dead are currently in Sheol awaiting resurrection, in the sleep of death.

 

[sdowney717]

Thats not the case, because even in the epistle we read that the dead in christ will be raised and JOINED with those who were alive on the earth to BOTH MEET CHRIST IN THE AIR. Meaning both groups were not with christ BEFORE he came. The dead are currently in Sheol awaiting resurrection, in the sleep of death.

It is the case, because He brings back with Him those who sleep in Christ. Sleep means the dead in Christ, refers to their physical body. But their spirits are very much alive in Christ with Him, and are with Him when He returns.
The resurrection of the dead in Christ is when the body is raised back to life and changed into a glorious body, it is when the spirit and body come back together. That happens when Christ returns. The body without the spirit is dead, but the spirit is not dead or sleeping, it is with Christ. Absent from the body for a believer means present with the Lord, in His presence.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-is-the-doctrine-of-soul-sleep-is-it-biblical/

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[cwo]

It is the case, because He brings back with Him those who sleep in Christ. Sleep means the dead in Christ, refers to their physical body. But their spirits are very much alive in Christ with Him, and are with Him when He returns.
The resurrection of the dead in Christ is when the body is raised back to life and changed into a glorious body, it is when the spirit and body come back together. That happens when Christ returns. The body without the spirit is dead, but the spirit is not dead or sleeping, it is with Christ. Absent from the body for a believer means present with the Lord, in His presence.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-is-the-doctrine-of-soul-sleep-is-it-biblical/

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This isn't so, because a man does not turn into a spirit when he dies, for only angels can turn into the form of spirit, which is the form of wind, which is why they can alternate form from a physical body that can eat and touch, to an invisible form of wind, and it is called a "spiritual body". But on the other hand, when a man dies, his spirit, which is his breath, returns to the air, and his body returns to the ground, and his SOUL is the component of a man that remains in existence, and goes to Sheol. This relates to the "natural" body we were created as, we cannot turn into the form of spirit. It is the soul that is the existence of man. When Christ returns, he comes to bring back the dead to life by taking the souls of man out of Sheol, and placing them into new bodies, "resurrection". And it is these dead in Christ that will join with those that are living, to ALL meet Christ in the air. Even from the other scriptures referenced in that site link I gave you you can see Christ returns with his angels, not with his elect.

 

[parousia70]

I believe that the Church age began on the day of Pentacost in 29 ad.

So, what age do you believe the Disciples were asking Jesus about the "end of" here:
Matthew 24:3
3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

By your calculation, they could not have been asking about the end of the Church age, as not only had it not yet begun at the time they asked the question, they had absolutely NO IDEA it even WAS coming!

How could the disciples ask about an end of an age they had no idea was even coming?

So the end of 2,000 years will be in 2029. This will be the end of the Church age and the beginning of the Kingdom age.

Scripture says the Church lasts through ALL ages, world without end, Amen. (Ephesians 3:21)

You disagree?

Scripture teaches that the earth and material cosmos will exist forever (Ecc 1:4; Ps 78:69; 89:36-37; 104:5; 148:4-6; Eph 3:21) and that human generations are perpetual (Ps 145:13; Dan 4:3,34; Dan 7:14,18,27; Lk 1:33)

We are in the EVERLASTING gospel age.
There is no use by or expiration date for the EVERLASTING gospel, whose sole purpose is to call sinners to salvation.

 

[cfyahoo08]

Would the 2,000 years of the church age be a birthday party or a anniversity party? We would need to get a cake either way.

Angel food cake ?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Angel food cake ?

That sounds good -if its big enough to fit 2,000 candles

 

[cfyahoo08]

That sounds good -if its big enough to fit 2,000 candles

oh It would have to serve a lot more than 2000 but I imagine the cake could be made to feed everyone . Just look what happened with the loaves and fishes, perhaps it could be fish shaped.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Scripture says the Church lasts through ALL ages, world without end, Amen. (Ephesians 3:21)You disagree?

We are the church, the bride of Christ and Jesus said He is coming for His Bride. She is the light of the world and her lamp will be filled with oil. Her garment will be without spot blemish or wrinkle. We will rule and reign with Christ for 1,000 years and then there will be a new heaven and a new earth.

Scripture teaches that the earth and material cosmos will exist forever

Forever means all of the ages. Science shows us that the earth and the universe do not last forever. They have a beginning and they have an end. The very first word in the Bible is the word Beginning. IF you do not understand the very first word, then you are not going to understand anything else in the Bible. Jesus IS the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end. He knows the end from the beginning. God writes the book of our life before we are even born. The angels are able to read that book so they know God plan for us and our life. Psalm 139:16 "Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."

In the Garden of Eden was the Tree of Life and the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil. Because they ate from the tree of knowledge they were not allowed to eat from the tree of life.

When Jesus appears we shall be like Him. Some translations use the word "likeness" the KJV uses the word "similitude". If we understood marriage and how the wife is to be like the husband then we would understand how the Bride will be like Jesus.

 

[joshua 1 9]

That sounds good -if its big enough to fit 2,000 candles

The 2,000 candles are for the 2,000 years of the church. The Bible says 1,000 years is a day. So this is the end of the second day and the beginning of the third day.

The million dollar question: Is this going to be the marriage feast of the lamb?

 

[ViaCrucis]

What happens after Jesus Returns and takes The Believers, and after the wicked has been dealt with? Does life on earth live on forever? Or does God destroy the earth? What happens to the universe? Does it cease to exist or live on forever? Was God's purpose of creating earth just for us Humans?

"He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and His kingdom will never end." - The Nicene Creed.

When the Lord returns to judge all, the dead are raised. The righteous are raised to everlasting life in the age to come, because God is going to renew, restore, and heal all of creation.

"See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I will create, for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight and its people a joy. I will rejoice over Jerusalem and take delight in My people; the sound of weeping and of crying will be heard in it no more." - Isaiah 65:17-19

"Then I saw a new heavens and a new earth, for the first heavens and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, 'Look! God's dwelling place is now among the people, and He will dwell with them. They will be His people, and God will be with them and be their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.' He who was seated on the throne said, 'I am making everything new!' Then he said, 'Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.'" - Revelation 21:1-5

The universe exists because it is the good creation of God, and we are part of it--created to be part of it forever. And we will. That's what resurrection means. That's why Christ came, to save us.

-CryptoLutheran