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What great City is being symbolized in Revelation?

Is Jerusalem 70 ad the great City in Revelation?

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BABerean2

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You seem to be mixing the two witnesses together with the wicked, in this post.

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LittleLambofJesus

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You seem to be mixing the two witnesses together with the wicked, in this post.
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Just showing members here where those particular Greek words are used in certain chapters of Revelation in relation to the 70AD Olivet Discourse.........
70AD Jerusalem/Temple is showing in Revelation 18............

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

...........................Of the Jews destroyed during the siege, Josephus reckons not less than ONE MILLION AND ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, to which must be added, above TWO-HUNDRED AND THIRTY-SEVEN THOUSAND who perished in other places, and innumerable multitudes who were swept away by famine, and pestilence, and of which no calculation could be made. Not less than two thousand laid violent hands upon themselves. Of the captives the whole was about NINETY-SEVEN THOUSAND............... In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely levelled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human beings. Thus was this great City, which only five months before, had been crowded with nearly two millions of people, who gloried in its impregnable strength, entirely depopulated, and levelled with the ground. And thus, also was our LORD'S prediction, that her enemies should "lay her even with the ground," and "should not leave in her one stone upon another, " (Luke xix. 44.) most strikingly and fully accomplished ! --

This fact is confirmed by Eusebius, who asserts that he himself saw the city lying in ruins ; and Josephus introduces Eleazer as exclaiming "Where is our great city, which, it was believed, GOD inhabited ? It is altogether rooted and torn up from its foundations ; and the only monument of it that remains, is the camp of its destroyers pitched amidst its reliques !"..............

Now, also, was literally fulfilled that prophecy of Micah- "Therefore shall Zion, for your sakes (i. e. for your wickedness,) be ploughed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the LORD's house as the high places of the forest." (Micah iii. 12)..............

Thus awfully complete an ever, beyond example, were the calamities which befel the Jewish nation, and especially the city of Jerusalem. With what truth, then, did our LORD declare, that there should "be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world, no, nor ever shall be !" (Matt. xxiv. 21.)

Such was the prediction : the language in which Josephus declares its fulfillment is an exact counterpart to it : "If the misfortunes," says he, " of all nations, from the beginning of the world, were compared with those which befel the Jews, they would appear far less in comparison ;" and again, "No other city ever suffered such thing's, as no other generation , from the beginning of the world, was ever more fruitful in wickedness." These were, indeed, "the days of vengeance," that all things which are written (especially by Moses, Joel, and Daniel,) might be fulfilled." Luke xxi. 22.

Nor were the calamities of this ill-fated nation even now ended ; for there were still other places to subdue ; and our LORD had thus predicted, "wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together." (Matt. xxiv. 28.) After the destruction of Jerusalem seventeen hundred Jews who surrendered at Macherus were slain, and of fugitives not less than three thousand in the wood of Jardes.
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Is Jerusalem 70 ad the great City in Revelation?
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Just showing members here where those particular Greek words are used in certain chapters of Revelation in relation to the 70AD Olivet Discourse.........

Just because the same word is being used, does not mean it applies equally to the same group of people.

Will the two witnesses be eaten by vultures?


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Just because the same word is being used, does not mean it applies equally to the same group of people.

Will the two witnesses be eaten by vultures?


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I will be more than happy to discuss that on this other thread........

70AD Luke and Revelation
go together like frosting on a cake........

"WHERE THE BODY is, there the EAGLES be gathered" Matt 24 Luke 17-- and Revelation

Luke uses G4983

4983 soma from 4982;
the body (as a sound whole), used in a very wide application, literally or figuratively:--bodily, body, slave
G4983 σῶμα (sōma), occurs 146 times in 122 verses

Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread

Luke 17
34 ‘I say to you, In that night, there shall be two men on one couch, the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left;
35 two women shall be grinding at the same place together, the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left;
36 two men shall be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other left.’
37 And they answering say to him, 'Where, sir?'
and He saith to them, 'Where the body<4983> is, there will the eagles/vultures<105> be gathered together<1996>.'


Revelation 18:13
“and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies<4983> and souls of men.

Revelation 19
17 And I perceived one messenger standing in the sun, and he cries-out in great voice, saying to all the birds, the ones flying in mid-heaven, "hither! be ye being gathered!<4863> into the Supper of the Great God.
18 That ye may be eating fleshes of kings......[Zeph 1:17/Ezekiel 39:19]
 
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The source is found below.

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.



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It is also that spiritual Sodom and Egypt into whom the fear of God enters after a series of events takes place. No such thing happens in Babylon.
 
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Which is what I have told them umpteen times. The Harlot = All False Religion of ALL TIME. And the Beast of course represents All False Governance of ALL TIME {Statue with head of Gold etc.}

The Harlot RIDES the Beast. Scarlet and Gold represents Religious Orders or Piousness in General according Wiki. And it also designates Royalty. So who is the Harlot ? False Religious Orders and who is the Beast ? False Governance or Royalty.

Rev. 18 tells them its the whole world, no one thinks God judges ONE CITY !! Babylon is a code word for ALL MANKIND who follow Satan, because they have been deceived {men are confused}. No one not confused would gather to battle against God !! Who dumb would you have to be ?
 
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It is also that spiritual Sodom and Egypt into whom the fear of God enters after a series of events takes place. No such thing happens in Babylon.

Go ahead and show us that series of events from the Book of Revelation.

Revelation 11:8 occurs shortly before the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The Book of Revelation is not in chronological order.


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What are you quoting here??? Two woman grinding? Further up (34) two men on a couch???
 
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LittleLambofJesus said:
Luke 17:34 there shall be two men on one couch
35 two women shall be grinding
What are you quoting here??? Two men on a couch and two women grinding?
Luke 17..............

Luke 17:34 Commentaries: biblehub

EXEGETICAL (ORIGINAL LANGUAGES)
Meyer's NT Commentary
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Expositor's Greek Testament
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Bengel's Gnomen
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Pulpit Commentary
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EXPOSITORY (ENGLISH BIBLE)
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
Barnes' Notes on the Bible
Matthew Poole's Commentary
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Geneva Study Bible
I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
 
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You are a cruel person to talk to. Are you not a Christian?

You tag my posts with winner and heart and rainbow emojis as a way to mock me.

God is still on the throne.

The scripture you quoted is incorrect. Can't you see that?
 
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