Okay, let's get scriptural here again. Was Paul lying when he said that all scripture is inspired by God? What was the scripture that he was refering to, since the New Testament hadn't been written yet? Was he testifying on his own behalf? What does Jesus say about one who testifies on his own behalf? Was the writer of Hebrews wrong when he said that Jesus is the same today, yesterday and forever? Is Jesus God? Didn't God not only order the Jews to war, but tell them in some cases to destroy everything and everyone, including women and children? And when in those cases they left someone alive He cursed the whole nation.
Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. The Old Testament is just as much scripture as the New Testament. War is justified sometimes. To not defend the inocent with all available means is an abomination, and to advocate passivity in such situations is unconscionable. To say, "I would intervene up to the point of violence," is passivity, because someone who is out to kill the person you are standing in front of will not think twice about killing you, so you have done nothing except get yourself killed too.
I have a relative who was robbing homes. The father of the owner of one of the homes lived nextdoor to his son. He came home while his son's house was being robbed. Danny ran out of the house with a gun drawn, and both men fired. No one really knows who shot first, but that man is alive, because Danny was wounded before he hit the father. Now to the bigger point. If Danny kept getting away with these burglaries he would have sunk even deeper into sin, and perhaps never gotten his wakeup call. You see, because of the intensity of that day, he is beginning to see the path he was on, and realize how he got there. He hasn't fully repented yet, but he is closer than if he had just sunk to the depths.
The above is true. The way he was going he would have just let sin slowly suck the life out of him and died a little at a time without cofrontation, probably in a drug induced stupor. Being shot and going to prison was a good thing for Danny. I just pray that he will fully see the truth, come to Jesus.
I have other questions for the passifists here. Do you think that there should be no police force? If there should be, should they go out against armed criminals unarmed to be nothing more than clay pigeons for target practice? How loving is that? Or do you really beleive that there should be no real restraint against the lawless? If they should go unrestrained who will be left to tell them about Jesus after they shoot us all for annoying them with the Gospel?
Seriously, I don't understand.