• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

What Gave Satan an evil will?

Son of Israel

Well-Known Member
Oct 9, 2009
634
153
69
Rogue River, Oregon
✟1,338.00
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Married
His own pride. Nothing more, nothing less; he did it all by himself.

Correct. And here is that act of pride, a simple matter of record;

(Gen 3:6) And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

which is;

(1Jn 2:16) For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

This came from the first Adam.

Jesus, the "second Adam", overcame the exact same temptation, therefore bringing forth righteousness;

(Mat 4:3) And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

(Mat 4:5) Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
(Mat 4:6) And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

And here is when He overcame the temptation to give in to "pride"...

(Mat 4:8) Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
(Mat 4:9) And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
(Mat 4:10) Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

That is how the devil of pride was destroyed. The overcoming of temptation with the Word of God, resulted in no evil in Jesus' life. Also destroyed as well, the lust of the flesh (stones into bread) and lust of the eyes (saw Himself ruling all the earth then and there).
(Heb 2:14)

"Pride" is a MAN thing. Adam and his offspring.

ONLY.
 
Upvote 0

Gregory Thompson

Change is inevitable, feel free to spare some.
Site Supporter
Dec 20, 2009
30,302
8,563
Canada
✟893,783.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Married
It is written that lucifer was perfect until sin was found in Him,

of Leviathan it is also written that he is the king over all the children of pride, Isaiah says calls leviathan the crooked serpent .

so i would say it is biblical to think pride is a devil thing more than a man thing .

but in reality . it is a "sin" thing .
 
Upvote 0

JCFantasy23

In a Kingdom by the Sea.
Jul 1, 2008
46,753
6,385
Lakeland, FL
✟509,617.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Methodist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
I have been reading the City Of God by St. Augustine, and he has been descussing what gave satan an evil will, he eventually concudes that he doesn't know, which surprised me.

He goes through the logic like this; Satan must have started with either a good will, a bad one, or no will. If a Good one, then it would never have willed to become bad. If an evil will, then where did this one come from? If no will at all, how is this possible? Nevertheless, did it come from his nature or something outside. If it was from his nature, was his nature good or bad? The scripture says it was good, so how could a good nature give way to a bad will? If an outside force, was it good or bad? If bad where did it come from? If good then how could it have created a bad will?


I contend that the flaw in this is that a good will can in fact be bad by striving to do good. The scripture tells us, "All a man's ways seem right to him If you ask Hitler was he a trying to do good or evil, he would respond he was trying to do good. A Good will when misinformed can and will do evil. What if Satan saw God doing something that, from his much simpler vantage point seemed to be wrong? What if his rebellion was on this account? After rebelling, he was cast down, and from then on his curse was separation from God, which results in darkness, sin, and misery, a state he is now in. His will now has been turned evil because he no longer exists in the light of God, Gods favor is now absent from him, and he is totally corrupt.

How do you guys explain Satan's evil will? Was it simply given to him by God( Insert Augustine's comment-- "Banish the thought!") Was he the creator of it? Did something else give it to him?


He was good since he was made by God to be so, but good can be perverted. I think he became arrogant and wanted more than he had, similar to the tempting of Eve in the garden, pointing to her the thing she did not have while she had everything else in the world. This started a corruption in him which he did not stop from spreading, although he could have. My opinions on it anyway.
 
Upvote 0