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Because when the Bible says that God is spirit, that applies to the whole Trinity.
According to the first Christians, for example, the angel of the Lord who appeared to Moses in a flame of fire out of a bush (Ex 3:2) was Christ himself.
Let's read Justin Martyr (100–165 AD): " For at that juncture, when Moses was ordered to go down into Egypt and lead out the people of the Israelites who were there, and while he was tending the flocks of his maternal uncle in the land of Arabia, our Christ conversed with him under the appearance of fire
from a bush, and said, “Put off thy shoes, and draw near and hear. And he, when he had put off his shoes and drawn near, heard that he was to go down into Egypt and lead out the people of the Israelites there; and he received mighty power from Christ, who spoke to him in the appearance of fire, and went down and led out the people ” (First Apology, LXII).
So you don't have an actual question then; you're just building up to reveal whatever u you're selling.
So because God is spirit and Jesus was a man, born of a woman was He not God in the flesh?
Who is Jesus?
Flesh and spirit are not mutually exclusive. One can one or the other ... or BOTH ...So because God is spirit and Jesus was a man, born of a woman was He not God in the flesh?
In reading the OT we can clearly see the 1st and 3rd persons of the Trinity in action but the 2nd person isn't as clear or visible, and we don't actually see Him. If you looked to the heavens before He took on flesh you'd see God the Father on His throne and the Holy Spirit but where is the 2nd person? If we look to the heavens now after He took on flesh we clearly see him by the right hand of His Father, we can also clearly see His form in the NT.
So my question is; in what form was the 2nd person of the Trinity before He took on flesh? Can you point Him out like you can point out the 1st and 3rd persons?
God is Spirit, thus he was Spirit
Christ has always been God from all eternity. The only-begotten Son and Word of the Father, eternally begotten.
The Logos asarkos and the Logos ensarkos are one and the same. What He was before, He remains; though now united to human nature so that He is truly both God and man without confusion and without separation. The one Lord Jesus Christ.
-CryptoLutheran
Flesh and spirit are not mutually exclusive. One can one or the other ... or BOTH ...
Flesh and spirit are not mutually exclusive. One can one or the other ... or BOTH ...
Perhaps you don't SEE Him in the OT.The 2nd Person of the Trinity had not yet taken on flesh in the OT so how can He be 'one or the other, or both'?
Where is the very first place that you can see the 2nd Person of the Trinity in the OT?
Perhaps you don't SEE Him in the OT.
He is, after all, the MYSTERY of God ...
“My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge” (Colossians 2:2–3).
YOU asked the question.He becomes visible almost from the very beginning. You've seen Him but you just didn't recognize Him. look closer and I'm sure He will pop out at you too.
Jesus is the pre-existent Logos, the Second Person of the Trinity, incarnate as a man, but without losing His divinity.
We believe in ... ONE Lord Jesus Christ, (Acts of the Apostles 11:17)
the Son of God, (Matthew 14:33; Matthew 16:16)
the Only-Begotten, (John 1:18; John 3:16)
Begotten of the Father before all ages. (John 1:2)
Light of Light; (Psalms 27:1; John 8:12; Matthew 17:2-5)
True God of True God; (John 17:1-5)
Begotten, not made; (John 1:18)
of one essence with the Father; (John 10:30)
by whom all things were made; (Hebrews 1:1-2)
Who for us men and for our salvation (1 Timothy 2:4-5)
came down from Heaven, (John 6:33-35)
and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, (Luke 1:35)
and became man. (John 1:14)
And was crucified for us (Mark 15:25; 1 Corinthians 15:3)
under Pontius Pilate, (John 19:6)
and suffered, (Mark 8:31)
and was buried. (Luke 23:53; 1 Corinthians 15:4)
And the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures. (Luke 24:1 1 Corinthians 15:4)
And ascended into Heaven, (Luke 24:51; Acts of the Apostles 1:10)
and sits at the right hand of the Father. (Mark 16:19; Acts of the Apostles 7:55)
And He shall come again with glory (Matthew 24:27)
to judge the living and the dead; (Acts of the Apostles 10:42; 2 Timothy 4:1)
whose Kingdom shall have no end. (2 Peter 1:11)
Anything that contradicts that is heresy.
YOU asked the question.
I was simply accommodating your query ....
We recognize that you feel that you have received a special revelation from God.You gave a lot of scriptures but none tell us who the 2nd Person of the Trinity actually is. I could tell you but what would be the point in that? If you keep digging I know you'll find it and I also know you've probably read it hundreds of times. Try thinking outside the box.
Your presumption that I am angry is incorrect.No need to get angry just because you can't answer it at this point. Your handle says you're a thinker so think about my question because I know you have the answer but it just hasn't come to the forefront of your mind yet.
If you keep digging I know you'll find it and I also know you've probably read it hundreds of times. Try thinking outside the box.
You seem to believe that you have some kind of special knowledge.
Orthodox Christianity is good enough for me, thanks.
We recognize that you feel that you have received a special revelation from God.
Many of us (Christians) have had similar experiences.
One of the marks of a Christian ... is that he/she shares with the people of God.
That's why there are (4) gospels, and not just one. Each writer contributed to the understanding of God by the people of God.
You may not feel like this, ... but that's not a particularly Christian sentiment ...
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