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What Evolution fails to mention.

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But the theory of evolution *doesn't* explain the origin of life. Therefore nobody could possibly use the ToE as such an explanation.

But people do.

Both parent plants have 18 chromosomes . Raphanobrassica has 36 chromosomes . There’s your “increase in genetic information” .

I do not think hybridization is considered an actual increase in genetic information.

Do new functions arise by gene duplication? - creation.com

They mention the raphanobrassica in that article.

You really shouldn’t get your info from creationist sources . They have a well deserved reputation for lying.

What makes you think secular sources are not twisting facts to support an agenda? Just a thought.

I tend to unintentionally offend people especially on controversial topics. I thought on this forum it might be different, but I am starting to sense some hostility, so I'll excuse myself from this thread.

I'll end by saying, try to get different viewpoints don't just assume the other viewpoint is incorrect. I think with an open mind and more research it will become evident that evolution is not observable science.
 
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But people do.

Which people?

I think with an open mind and more research it will become evident that evolution is not observable science.

The mechanisms of evolution (change in gene frequencies in populations over time) are directly observable. To suggest otherwise is... odd.
 
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I’ve got a biology degree . I do understand that you don’t understand evolution. You use the Orwellian newspeak terminology that creationists use to confuse laymen . Learn some real science. Hybridization can and obviously does lead to speciation . In this case Raphanobrassica can only produce offspring with other Raphanobrassica plants not with either parent species. Despite creationist misuse of scientific terminology , speciation is macroevolution
 
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Since evolution has been easily observed both in the wild and in labs you do realize that this is 1 nonsense and 2 evidence that creation “scientists” lie

You need to fix your tags.
 
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What is important, is the stories or illustrations or examples in Genesis, and knowing what those are to, or should "mean" to us...

They are (and God considered them to be), much more important to tell us, than actual literal history, or science, or any of mere man's knowledge disciplines...

The question is "why" these were or are considered so very, vitally important above all and anything else, and what we are to "get out of them" or "glean" from them...

What do you think this is, or why this is...?

God Bless!
 
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Those stories in genesis are a poetic way of saying that God created everything. Taking them literally only causes and has caused confusion . Since the creation story is told by using folklore patterns( using puns and numerology) I’ve never thought of it as anything but a tale. I certainly don’t think of it as a history. (And as an aside misusing this for centuries to deny women their full civil rights as adults has been horrible )
 
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Why do you think God considered it so very, very important to tell us, and expose us to these stories...?

Why did he consider it "most important" above all and everything else...?

God Bless!
 
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you may interested in this thread too:

the self replicating watch argument
 
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Why do you think God considered it so very, very important to tell us, and expose us to these stories...?

Why did he consider it "most important" above all and everything else...?

God Bless!
God didn’t consider it to be important. People wrote ( and edited and mistranslated and bowdlerized) the Bible
 
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You were right about one thing only: that you were rambling.

Genetics proves you wrong completely. As does the fossil record, for that matter.
What this post shows, is that you have very little knowledge of the processes involved. Likely, that's why think like this. That's fine. There's no shame in being mistaken because of ignorance. There's good news too… Ignorance, is not a desease. It's easy to overcome.

All it takes, is a bit of reading / studying.

So I'll go ahead and advice you to actually inform yourself a bit on the topic. Get a few good books on evolution (from mainstream science authors, actual active evolutionary biologists, not from creationists or other dishonest cdesign proponentsists).

There's more then enough of such excellent books out there.

I could break down your post and correct every single mistake you made and explain how it's wrong... but frankly I don't have the time nore the energy to do so. It would be a loooooong post as well. And I just don't think it would be productive.

You need to read up first.
 
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With that, i believe most dinosaurs fit in the reptile family. Why i say that is that repiles have many variants yet similarities. Including size and what they do. I do believe they were made before Man, but died during the great flood.

No such flood has ever occured in earth's history.
 
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So you genuinely consider potatoes to be kin. OK. Guess we better not question your religious beliefs, because you invented a word for grouping potatoes in with man! So we have you, carrots, coyotes, and potatoes all in the same 'group'. youcaryotes.

So, did it make you feel better to pretend that Eukaryotes are an invention?
How do you breath with your head lodged so firmly into the ground?
 
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Just like the mountains of evidence supporting global warming?

Yes.

Although the mountains of evidence in support of evolution are much taller.
Not that the mountains supporting global warming aren't tall enough, off course.
 
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God didn’t consider it to be important. People wrote ( and edited and mistranslated and bowdlerized) the Bible
Bull, but whatever... They were under the influence of a/the God and if you do not believe that, nor can see that, then you are "lost"...

God Bless!
 
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Bull, but whatever... They were under the influence of a/the God and if you do not believe that, nor can see that, then you are "lost"...

God Bless!
Even if they are not literal (at least here anyway) then God considered them very, very important, and so should we... But, in what "way"...?

What are the main, general purpose of all "legends" or telling stories to each generation from the previous ones...? It is usually, for one, that they (the people) considered them so very "profound" for one... But, for another, is, as they say is "the moral of", or the "point of the stories"... What is the point and purpose of their/these "illustrations"...?

That point, and those points, in Genesis, are what God felt more important than anything else he could possibly tell us, and ours, is to figure out "why"...?

Why were they, or what makes them, "that important"...?

God Bless!
 
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"Rationality", "evidence based", "empirical", "testable", ...
It is not rational to deny evidences and make stuff up. It is not evidence when all you do is soil evidences with beliefs. It could not be empirical dealing with an unknown And you cannot test the former nature or the future. Nor can you test time in the far universe. All your criteria are blasted to smithereens.
 
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So, did it make you feel better to pretend that Eukaryotes are an invention?
How do you breath with your head lodged so firmly into the ground?
Fossils are not inventions. What is invented is what they came from or produced.
 
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