What errors and inventions arose in Roman Catholicism?

[Pteriax]

Right. I notice you noticed.
Have you noticed enough of either parties posts to make a generalization?
I believe I have. Would you like to hear it, or do you already know what I'm going to say?

Well, I would like to hear it if he doesn't.

 

[Tzaousios]

Right. I notice you noticed.
Have you noticed enough of either parties posts to make a generalization?
I believe I have. Would you like to hear it, or do you already know what I'm going to say?

Well, I would like to hear it if he doesn't.

Yes, please explain where Pteriax or his part has made a generalization. I eagerly await your critical analysis.

 

[decent orange]

Wow.
I spent the first 18 years of my life listening to what they say AND watching what they do.
They do not speak whatever God wills them to speak, unless you are referring to predestinaton.
I am both happy that good comes out of their mouths & that a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I have failed to understand your view. Are you some form of calvanist? If so, you believe predestination, but do not believe that every word that comes out of a man's mouth is the will of God? This makes no sense to me.

If God predestined all things then he willed that predestination of all people. So, listen to what they say.

I'm not saavy on various factions viewpoints though, or which belief system you hold .

 

[MamaZ]

Why would I listen to what comes out of the mouth of the RCC?

 

[decent orange]

Why would I listen to what comes out of the mouth of the RCC?

Because they spoke. If you don't listen, how would you know what they said?

 

[Tzaousios]

Why would I listen to what comes out of the mouth of the RCC?

Why should a Roman Catholic listen to the interpretations that come out of yours?

 

[Rick Otto]

I have failed to understand your view. Are you some form of calvanist? If so, you believe predestination, but do not believe that every word that comes out of a man's mouth is the will of God? This makes no sense to me.

If God predestined all things then he willed that predestination of all people. So, listen to what they say.

I'm not saavy on various factions viewpoints though, or which belief system you hold .

Understand I grew up in the RCC & know well their doctines & their behaviors.
If you believe as you say, why are you not Catholic? Is it because there is more than one catholicism? That would be an impossible choice for me, because catholicism means universal & there being more than one Catholicism would lead me to conclude they are all wrong about something. Thus the 'every word they speak is God's will' sounds like hyperbola.

 

[Rick Otto]

Why should a Roman Catholic listen to the interpretations that come out of yours?

Why ask why?
Is it not obvious she's heard enough to know not to listen?

 

[Albion]

I'm not sure the Catholics have any errors or inventions.

Well, those of us who have studied it for years--and listened--are aware of the errors and inventions. If that doesn't interest you, why did this thread attract your attention?

 

[Tzaousios]

Why ask why?
Is it not obvious she's heard enough to know not to listen?

Who knows. I was adopting her tactic of questioning a question with a question.

 

[Erose]

I agree, but I would assume that a previous Bishop of the RCC, (now considered a Saint) would be and that his views would reflect the teachings of the church. As that thread is now closed I won't reference it again, but it was just an example of the discrepancy I see of what individual RC's say and what the collective seems to demonstrate.

Then post the quote again, with a link and I will be more than happy to explain it to you, but if you may have noticed, this thread is fast flowing.

I did not mean to belittle the situation, and if you took it that way I do apologize.

 

[decent orange]

Understand I grew up in the RCC & know well their doctines & their behaviors.
If you believe as you say, why are you not Catholic? Is it because there is more than one catholicism? That would be an impossible choice for me, because catholicism means universal & there being more than one Catholicism would lead me to conclude they are all wrong about something. Thus the 'every word they speak is God's will' sounds like hyperbola.

I don't even know what a hyperbola is, so I cannot confirm or deny whether that is true. But you should enjoy the Catholics while you still have them.

 

[Erose]

At some point you need to stop acting like you know which parts of the Bible I have read / understand. It doesn't say what you want it to say.

The problem with your assertion is that it says exactly what I say it did. I even quoted it for you.

You have claimed in more than a few posts that any image should be considered an idol, and should not be acceptable due to the commandment against false idols. I showed you in the very same book, were images were obviously acceptable, within even the Tent of Meeting and then latter in 1Kings in the Temple.then you went on some discussion that they were only acceptable because a prophet said so. Well if they are except able within the Tent and Temple of God, why on earth would they not be acceptable in the Church of God?

 

[Erose]

None of this calls the church a prophet as you claim. next.

Do you even know what a prophet is?

Intercessors are not in heaven or hell.

None of this is an example of someone praying to anyone but God. Next.

You don't see the imagery of angels and ancients bring the prayers of the saints? What are you doing when you intercede? You are bringing to God a petition of another.

 

[decent orange]

Well, those of us who have studied it for years--and listened--are aware of the errors and inventions. If that doesn't interest you, why did this thread attract your attention?

Your philosophy is not without errors or your own inventions according to the Catholics. You might be confusing their errors and inventions with your own reflection. It does happen.

 

[Albion]

Your philosophy is not without errors or your own inventions according to the Catholics. You might be confusing their errors and inventions with your own reflection. It does happen.

Not in this case. I know that you think it's a good idea for everyone to join hands and pretend that we all believe the same thing, but we don't all believe the same thing. What's more, it matters. This is a discussion board, and we are discussing a perfectly reasonable issue--religious errors and inventions made through the years. If you disagree with some that have already been listed, by all means give us your thinking on them.

 

[Erose]

lol. don't like evidence, eh? Evidence takes up space, fills pages with text, and videos.

what evidence? Videos from people unable to defend their positions against my Church, so they make things up about it? Please that isn't evidence, that is being lazy.

Already done, quite specifically, but you ignored it because it wasn't "short and sweet". Your problem not mine.

i have not seen one counter response as of yet, but I will accept you don't have one and leave it at that.

Whenever I am asked further about such replies, I expand on them, as you have yourself experienced. Erose refuses to do that.

I believe I have answered your questions, I am still waiting on a few. Like he said, just saying that is false is not a satisfactory answer.

 

[Rick Otto]

The problem with your assertion is that it says exactly what I say it did. I even quoted it for you.

You have claimed in more than a few posts that any image should be considered an idol, and should not be acceptable due to the commandment against false idols. I showed you in the very same book, were images were obviously acceptable, within even the Tent of Meeting and then latter in 1Kings in the Temple.then you went on some discussion that they were only acceptable because a prophet said so. Well if they are except able within the Tent and Temple of God, why on earth would they not be acceptable in the Church of God?

And I pointed out the only acceptable exception regarding images were the ones specificaly commissioned by God.

 

[Erose]

Well, those of us who have studied it for years--and listened--are aware of the errors and inventions. If that doesn't interest you, why did this thread attract your attention?

If you spent so many years studying it, then why are so often wrong about what the Church teaches?

 

[Erose]

And I pointed out the only acceptable exception regarding images were the ones specificaly commissioned by God.

And we're is this in the Bible? Where does it say that all images are unacceptable except for the one I specifically tell you about? Chapter and verse please.