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What does the Sea Beast represent?

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I'm just curious as to what other Christians believe outside of my own denomination concerning the Beast out of the Sea, mentioned in the book of Revelation. Now I have heard many say they believe it to be the Papacy, the Roman Catholic Church. If you are Catholic, I mean no offense by this, but it is something I have heard quite frequently in the Protestant community. But I want to know what you think...and why. Please share with me?

Thanks and God bless!
 

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Hello chevelledc788.

I assume you are referring to the beast in Revelation 13:1-10. I'll reference some of "Revelation" by Louis Brighton.

"The use of "beast" here in 13:1, the same term as in 11:7, suggests that these two beasts are related, though they are not the same. The beast "coming up out of the abyss" in 11:7 is to be identified with "the angel of the abyss" in 9:11, who in turn is to be identified with the "dragon" of Revelation 12: all three are Satan. Here in 13:1 the beast is not the dragon (the angel of the abyss), but it is under the control of the dragon (Satan himself).

The "sea" is similar to "the abyss" (hell) in 9:11 and 11:7. The sea is a place of chaos and evil on earth. As indicated in 12:18 the dragon (Satan) stands on the shore of the "sea" in anticipation as he awaits the beast to come forth at his bidding. If one faces out toward the Aegean Sea from Patmos one is looking in the general direction of Rome.

At the call of the dragon, the beast comes from such a tumultuous sea. This beast from the sea is the first monster which will plaque the people of God on earth. The first beast has ten horns and seven heads exactly like the dragon of 12:3. This identifies the beast and what it represents as the instrument and agent of Satan.

The description of the beast from the sea suggests that it resembles the fourth beast from the sea in Dan 7:7. John sees only one beast because by his time in history the first three had come and gone. Because the dragon could not destroy the woman, he summons the beast to carry on his warfare against the woman, the Christian church. And this warfare by the dragon, through the beast, began at or shortly after the ascension of Christ. The time period during which the beast would be active would be the whole period of church history, from Christ's ascension up to the end of this present world at Christ's return.

Many commentators today identify the beast of Rev 13:1-2 with the Roman Empire. In John's day, and long after, the beast did indeed represent Rome. After the fall of the Roman Empire in the fifth century, Rome continued to serve as the type and model of such tyrannical powers that would arise in the future. In light of this history, the interpretation included Rome but also must be broadened. The beast represents and symbolizes every human authority and everything of the human nature that the dragon can corrupt and control and use in his warfare against the woman (the church) and her seed (individual Christians) - political, governmental, social, economic, philosophical, and educational systems, as well as individuals.

Aside - the beast from the earth in 13:11-18 represents evil religious authority."

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chevelledc788 said:
I'm just curious as to what other Christians believe outside of my own denomination concerning the Beast out of the Sea, mentioned in the book of Revelation. Now I have heard many say they believe it to be the Papacy, the Roman Catholic Church. If you are Catholic, I mean no offense by this, but it is something I have heard quite frequently in the Protestant community. But I want to know what you think...and why. Please share with me?

Thanks and God bless!

This forum is for non-Christians to ask questions in. You cannot ask questions here. you should take your question to another section.


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The sea sometimes refers to the masses of people in the world. Rising up out of the sea might imply that he was a normal person who unexpectedly rose to power. It could also literally mean the sea near where it was written--the Mediterranean.

The word beast is usually spoken of as a person, but in the Greek, it's not clear. It could even mean an organization or system. Some speculate that the internet will become the beast (it certainly rose out of the sea of people!) . The dragon gave him/her/it authority...that could have many implications.

From observation, it seems that clumps of people read prophecy books, and develop their interpretations from what they've just read. It's not usually a slam against an specific person or position, but a stance where nothing else made sense yet, and this happened to fit. So when people claim that it's the papacy, it doesn't mean that all protestants are anti-pope, but that they're watching for changes that might occur.

A lot of people say we shouldn't even bother discussing end times, but Jesus said we need to keep watch, and pay attention to the signs.

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With all the finger pointing and arguments that arise about Revelations, I was not surprized to hear that it was almost not cannonized. I think that most of the things spoken therin have already happened:

"And it was given to him (the beast) to make war with the Saints and overcome them."

Look up Emperors Nero and Diocletian "seven kings, five have come and gone, one is, and one is yet to be..."

Nero was, and in the time of Revelations, Diocletian was yet to be.

May you be blessed.
 
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It helps to keep in mind that prophecy is there to get us through rough times--to help us understand the dynamics of what goes on when it's not going to make normal sense.

It also gives us time to repent and prepare, gives us a cushion for options, allows us time to pray for mercy and lighter damage.

The Jews definitely needed that preparation back then! It was a nightmare. But I think prophecies can apply to layers of times...so even if coinciding events happened before, we can be open to watch for the possibility of repeated signs. If the message and intent were clear, we wouldn't have so many discussions on it.

Thanks, WS, for bringing up the history data.

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