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MAGA is really only about a few things

1) Americans should not be self hating about themselves and their country (in spite of how liberal educators try to indoctrinate us at ever lowering ages as far as the education system goes). Americans should take genuine pride in their accomplishments. This can be done without white washing the problems of the past.


2) American should stop being the World's Policeman and should prioritize fixing our own problems at home.
 
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1). Awfully hard to do with the Divider-in-Chief sitting in the Oval Office
2). Yes, cutting the defense budget in half and using that windfall to fund education and universal healthcare is a grand idea!
 
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Who in their right mind would make appeasement with a terrorist state by sending $1.5 B in cash, who are desperate for money to create terror throughout the world?

There were other choices that Obama ignored.
 
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I disagree. Plenty of people made a good living regardless of sex or color. They worked for it just like the rest of us.
When was that?
 
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Who in their right mind would make appeasement with a terrorist state by sending $1.5 B in cash.
Who said anything about appeasement? It was their money.

And they’re not that desperate for money. 1.5 billion isn’t that much on their scale. They have well over a trillion.
 
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Who said anything about appeasement? It was their money.

And they’re not that desperate for money. 1.5 billion isn’t that much on their scale. They have well over a trillion.

Yea, you're right! They probably gave that small amount of money to the poor in Iran.
 
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Yea, you're right! They probably gave that small amount of money to the poor in Iran.
I don’t know what they did with it. But acting like we made some huge contribution to them by giving them money we owed them in the first place, money that wouldn’t even amount to half a percent of what they have, is more than a little silly.
 
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Yea, you're right! They probably gave that small amount of money to the poor in Iran.
Unfortunately, it was legally their money. Do you think anybody tells Mr. Trump how to spend his money? Now, granted it is usually other people's money anyway that he is spending,

Now, why is a debate about Iran clogging up a thread about MAGA? That's how threads get closed, folks.
 
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MAGA:
A feeling that once America was easier to make it in (which is true), and then...

a wishful hope that somehow we could turn back the clock to that easier time
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Of course, one could try to turn back the clock on costs -- one could buy a far less fancy car(!) and get something a little more like a car from the 70s == which was vastly more simple and basic than most modern automobiles.

And how about a far less fancy house(!), with less fancy improvements in it, again, more like the smaller and less fancy houses of the 1960s that people bought in the 1970s....

In some parts of the nation, modest homes can cost almost as much(!) as newer ones, when the area is very crowded and in high demand -- and in those areas are high land prices -- but...in many parts of the nation, older houses are less expensive than the more fancy modern ones.

So, one could turn back the clock on expenses....

And then there is medical expense...the cost of which has naturally risen and risen over decades, because of course people are willing to pay whatever they can to stay alive. The nature of medical expense in a free market where some doctors are better than others and some treatments/drugs seemingly better is that this situation will cause prices to rise to take whatever money is available. If average wages go up...then, medical costs will go up because more money is available, inevitably, under a free market.

But, sans medical costs or land prices in certain areas, one could at least turn back the clock on other expenses.
 
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They don't have that money now due to the sanctions by our great president Donald J. Trump.
 
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I made an off topic post to an off topic post, you know how it goes!

But I do apologize, I shouldn't have done that, sorry!
 
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They don't have that money now due to the sanctions by our great president Donald J. Trump.
No, they still have the money. They’ve lost money because of the sanctions, sure, but it’s not like that just erases what they had.

And they also have more uranium and are closer to a full weapon than ever before, which was was precisely what the sanctions were supposed to stop. So good job, yeah.
 
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I made an off topic post to an off topic post, you know how it goes!

But I do apologize, I shouldn't have done that, sorry!
Bless you.
 
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Of course Make America Great again can mean different things to different people.

I think one of the main ideas was to have the United States realize there's no reason why a nation so big in natural resources can't basically be self-sufficient. Actually Trump's MAGA very much reminds me of President McKinleys who advocated tariffs as a way for prosperity. It was put America first. The end result of his work I believe demonstrated he was right.
 
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The nation's economic wellbeing isn't rated only by the GDP.

Under Trump, all other economic indicators took off--unemployment further declined, black and Hispanic unemployment reached historic lows, the stock market continued upwards, interest rates on investments increased, home sales took off, etc. etc.
 
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It is reminiscent of when Regan was running:

The Ronald Reagan campaign slogan “Make America Great Again” was first used at the Republican National Convention in July 1980, when the then-candidate accepted the Republican Party’s nomination for president. “For those who’ve abandoned hope,” he said, “we’ll restore hope and we’ll welcome them into a great national crusade to make America great again
I liked it then, and I like it today. The left hated Reagan also, but not as violently as Trump.
 
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It is reminiscent of when Regan was running:

The Ronald Reagan campaign slogan “Make America Great Again” was first used at the Republican National Convention in July 1980, when the then-candidate accepted the Republican Party’s nomination for president. “For those who’ve abandoned hope,” he said, “we’ll restore hope and we’ll welcome them into a great national crusade to make America great again
I liked it then, and I like it today. The left hated Reagan also, but not as violently as Trump.
 
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