What does it take for a soul to become eternal/infinite?

[pittsburghjoe]

Jesus is the only way.

I want to look into the science behind a soul being compatible with infinity.

For something to be infinite it needs to be in perfect order (Coherence).

This reality of the fallen is disorder (Decoherence). It is finite. You can't have an infinite number of anything physical.

Is the following saying Jesus was made of disorder?

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Jesus is the only way.

Preaching doesn't go here.

I want to look into the science behind a soul being compatible with infinity.

• Define a soul
• Demonstrate that there is a soul
• Define infinity
• Demonstrate that one has anything to do with other

For something to be infinite it needs to be in perfect order (Coherence).

• Define perfect order or coherence
• Explain what it means for a thing to be infinite
• Demonstrate the requirement you've asserted

This reality of the fallen is disorder (Decoherence). It is finite.

See above.

You can't have an infinite number of anything physical.

Demonstrate this

Is the following saying Jesus was made of disorder?

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Irrelevant to the this forum. Blatant appeal to emotion.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Weird how this is a Christian forum.

Was Jesus made in a way that could interact with this fallen reality?

 

[Speedwell]

Weird how this is a Christian forum.

It is a science forum open to people of all religions and of none. It is operated by a Christian organization but it is a forum for scientific, rather than religious discussion.

 

[pitabread]

Having never seen anyone provide a definition of a 'soul' that seems compatible within a scientific framework, I'm not really sure where this discussion is expected to go.

At the very least, it's not a scientific discussion and should probably be better suited to the theology subforums or possible the non-mainstream/controversial science subforum.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If you get an interference pattern then all possible paths were used and none of them got observed.
If you don't get an interference pattern then the wave is using Scalar.

This reality seems to be Scalar Volumes vs Vector Field.

What I'm actually saying is that the double slit experiment is proof of sin.

Physicality is what happened after original sin. We were not physical beforehand. Adam and Eve suddenly knew they were naked because they were physical for the first time. We suffered a spiritual death ..not a physical one. Scalar started. This makes Sin the reason for the measurement problem. You need a closed scalar volume for entropy. Entropy is disorder. The non-physical doesn't use entropy. The spiritual universe is coherent. This reality of the fallen is decoherence.

 

[Albion]

Is the following saying Jesus was made of disorder?

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

No, it isn't saying that. To understand the verse better, think of the bolded part as saying that the 'Son of God' was not tainted by sin, but he nevertheless was sent to take upon himself our fallen nature. Not the sin itself, but the nature that had been damaged by sin.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

For the Son to become man he had to be made of the elements of this fallen reality. This reality is sin ..disorder ..entropy ..decoherence.

 

[Albion]

For the Son to become man he had to be made of the elements of this fallen reality. This reality is sin ..disorder ..entropy ..decoherence.

Those may be consequences of sin, but they are not part of human nature as it was created.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Jesus is the only way.

I want to look into the science behind a soul being compatible with infinity.

For something to be infinite it needs to be in perfect order (Coherence).

This reality of the fallen is disorder (Decoherence). It is finite. You can't have an infinite number of anything physical.

Is the following saying Jesus was made of disorder?

2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Welcome! Science is the unveiling of Gods creation. It deals with the flesh and not the spirit. Yes, anything of this world is finite and death is imminent however those is Christ will not suffer the "second death". This is the soul. Be blessed.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Imagine you're God, you have infinity to do whatever. You decide you want people that can think for themselves to be in your existence (free will). The only problem is that they can't be corrupted or it screws with your system.

God is perfect order, coherence.
Sin is disorder, decoherence.
God needs us to be orderly to be entangled with him.
You need coherent waves to quantum entangle. Love is Entanglement.

Disorder is our knowledge of good and evil ..it is why things are physical ..solid objects

 

[Albion]

Imagine you're God, you have infinity to do whatever. You decide you want people that can think for themselves to be in your existence (free will).

The only problem is that they can't be corrupted or it screws with your system.

Why does this second part necessarily follow?

God is perfect order, coherence.
Sin is disorder, decoherence.
God needs us to be orderly to be entangled with him.
You need coherent waves to quantum entangle. Love is Entanglement.

It "sounds" as though what you are missing is the possibility of God's creation being tarnished and, also, the ability of God to make it right again. If he can do anything, which you agree is the case, then he can do this.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We have to live in sin to understand why it is wrong. We will look back on this age and agree to never be disorder again.

 

[HARK!]

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[98cwitr]

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Moved from Physical and Life Science forum to Non-Mainstream. This is a better place for it. Thread has been reopened.

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[JohnEmmett]

What does it take for a soul to become eternal?

Already so.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Right, I should specify "peaceful" eternal life.

 

[Direct Driver]

I see that as two questions. Question number one: What does it take for a soul to become eternal?
The answer is in John 3:16.
Question number two: What does it take for a soul to become infinite?
I have no clue.

 

[Strathos]

Science can't answer this kind of question. This is a religious topic, so it doesn't really belong in the science forums.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The mods already decided ..and if you are Christian you should be ashamed of yourself.