What Does it Mean For God to do Something for his glory?

[hedrick]

First, the biblical witness says that God judges mans acts/actions. Second, the heart of man is wicked. You are repeating the common fallacy that deep deep down inside, people are good, but God says that mans sinful actions come from man's sinful heart. Deep down inside, man is wicked.

No, not really. I'm not claiming anything so silly as that everyone is good. Certainly not in any way that would merit salvation. I was speaking about how God will judge who has saving faith.

However I think it's best to suspend that argument, since "Ask a Calvinist" is not the right place to make a case for inclusivism nor against the Augistinian view of humanity.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Maybe this thread can be moved to somewhere more appropriate.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

"Ask a Calvinist" is not the right place to make a case for inclusivism nor against the Augistinian view of humanity.

It's the perfect place, but only if you are after the correct answer.

 

[ToBeLoved]

First, the biblical witness says that God judges mans acts/actions. Second, the heart of man is wicked. You are repeating the common fallacy that deep deep down inside, people are good, but God says that mans sinful actions come from man's sinful heart. Deep down inside, man is wicked.

The Bible says that no one can even please God that is not in Christ.

Romans 8:7-8
7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s Law, nor can it do so. 8 Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. 9 You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14
13 And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14 The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone’s judgment.

Just to add a little to what you said.