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What does it mean by One God?
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GoldenKingGaze
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It seems during the Gospel that the Father is greater, and the Spirit that was to come. But this is because as in Philippians 2, Jesus was emptied of the appearance of glory to walk among us, like one one of us, and rely on the Father, to set the example for us. Once Jesus was glorified He was back to His glorious self. Satan sought to be equal with God, Jesus didn't count equality as something to be grasped, for our sake.
Isaiah 9:6 describes Him, Father of eternity. Or Father of time, creator.
They always work together. Creating all things, Jesus baptism and anointing, Jesus resurrection. Sending the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.
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11Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12In a loud voice they were saying:
“Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain,
to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!”
“Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain,
to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!”
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They co-exist, among the last heresies corrected by the elders in the centre of the ancient church, was modalism. Some thought God was one person, who at times used a mode of appearing as the Father and sometimes the Son and sometimes the Holy Spirit. It was corrected and Bishop Augustine wrote Dei Trinitate. So God has faces, panim. They are one relational being. Three distinct persons, always and uncreated, self existent, always love, who made us to see His face, and relate, filled with that love which defines them, by the Spirit of Love.
The Bible says God thought about each one of us from the foundation of the world, and that His thoughts about each one, outnumber the grains of sand along the sea shore. Before you do anything, God loves you, and starts a relationship. You can't find Him on your own.
The Bible says God thought about each one of us from the foundation of the world, and that His thoughts about each one, outnumber the grains of sand along the sea shore. Before you do anything, God loves you, and starts a relationship. You can't find Him on your own.
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As in Philippians 2, the Son did not count equality with God something to be grasped, He was emptied in trust. He came to live humbly like a servant and said in His Earthly ministry that He did not know the day or hour of the judgement. But now He would, or the Father knows but the other two don't under some agreement, but probably they all know. They keep it secret from us.
Like the spirit of a man knows his mind and everything about him, so the Spirit searches the Father and knows all things.
Like the spirit of a man knows his mind and everything about him, so the Spirit searches the Father and knows all things.
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The word "God" is from German. In Genesis God is called Elohim. They created man, let us make man... Later God says to Moses I AM WHO I AM, when asked which God sent him. Jesus name is I AM WHO I AM is your Salvation. Jesus when asked who He was said I AM before Abraham, and then they tried to stone him. Also Jesus forgave sins, such as with the paralytic lowered through the roof. He walked away. Only God forgives sins. The combination of power of Michael and Gabriel could not overcome the power of death, power evident in resurrection. All the angels of death have great power.
Again Jesus other name is Emmanuel, which means God with us. This idea is the common theme in almost every book in the Bible.
The soldiers come to arrest Jesus, He says, I AM He, and under the power of God's name, they fall back to the ground.
Render from Hebrew to English YHWH another way and it says behold hand, behold nail.
Again Jesus other name is Emmanuel, which means God with us. This idea is the common theme in almost every book in the Bible.
The soldiers come to arrest Jesus, He says, I AM He, and under the power of God's name, they fall back to the ground.
Render from Hebrew to English YHWH another way and it says behold hand, behold nail.
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The problem with the atom analogy is that the parts are not atoms as you say. Where in Christianity the three parts are god as well. This violates the laws of logic specifically the law on non contradiction. That god is three persons and one person at the same time.
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There is one God, the Father.
There is one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of the Father, begotten in eternity of the Father's own Essence, and therefore the Son is God with the Father. The one and same God.
There is one Holy Spirit, who proceeds from the Father, and is of the same Essence as the Father and the Son, and therefore the one and same God.
The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are the same and one God.
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Inevitably one of the problems that is going to come in trying to understand what Christianity means when talking about the Trinity is by thinking of "God" anthropomorphically; i.e. that "God" is like a human person but just "really, really big".
This isn't God:
Neither is this:
Or this:
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This isn't God:
Neither is this:
Or this:
-CryptoLutheran
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I don't think the Trinity is about the number three. But it had to include both the Father and Son, and the Holy Spirit was a prominent enough mode of God's presence that it was pretty obvious to include it. It's hard to see what else would be included.
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Remember, in the west it's one will and one three-fold consciousness. Obviously yes. But be careful about applying this to the human Jesus. That involves not just the Trinity but the Incarnation. The eternal Logos, the Son in eternity, is equal to the Father. But his human form is finite and obviously mortal.
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