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What does “Free Will” mean?

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After perusing these two posts I note that in post #48, you describe three meanings of free will most of them described as limited in some respect. You also provide a dictionary definition of free will and a definition of will.

Will

(Verb)
- To wish, desire, want, to will, or to choose.
Let me first comment on the term will: The term free will is actually a noun so I do not understand why you provided a verb. Here is the noun version:

will2

noun
  • 1The faculty by which a person decides on and initiates action.
Now let's agree that we all have our own wills capable of reasoning in some capacity and deciding a course of action. So what is a free will? I noticed that you provided the oxford dictionary definition but it is missing a vital component. Here is the oxford definition in it's entirety:

The power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.

I would like to point out that according to this definition, obedience to God would not be a choice made of a free will because it is a choice of necessity lest we die. This effectively nullifies
obedience to God as optional and discretionary. This would also mean that God's commandments are imperatives and not suggestions. Since God's Word is the Light and Life of every person, then mankind shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.​

Now let's look at the three free wills you describe:

#1. Man's Limited Slave to Sin Type Free Will.
#2. Man's Limited Redemptive Type Free Will.
#3. God's Limited to Doing Only Good Type Free Will.

The first thing I notice, is that you are using the term free with arbitrary and even contradictory denotations. You could have just used the term "will" by it's self and accomplished the same intent.

The first will is actually what scripture calls the will of the flesh. This will lives according to the desires of the sinful flesh. This is the carnal mind which also reasons according to a vain imagination and it is by nature in enmity with God.

The second will is the spiritual will and it is what is being quickened through the Spirit of Christ. This is the Rhema that was in mankind since Adam and which was diminished or fallen due to distrust in God's Character. It is a will that is being converted to a new man with a renewal of the mind through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, Who eliminates the carnal reasoning by exposing the deceptions of carnal vanity as only imaginary and void of goodness.

Finally, there is God's will that can do no wrong, wherein lies wisdom and Eternal life.

In each will, the term free adds nothing significant or efficacious to the meanings.

You definitely conflate choice/option and choice/decision when you say this:



With all due respect, I hope you will understand my intent when I say that any reasoning that is based upon false information ends in a contradiction. By this we know what is true and not true.

Notice that the thing we are choosing between in a dichotomy of good and evil is what is right and wrong, true or false, life or death, sin or God. You are therefore claiming that we "cannot have any desire or to choose differently" without sin as an option. Essentially you're intimating that we cannot have a free will without sin, as if a lie is something to consider as viable. And yet you contradict that by saying that God's will is free even though He cannot go against His own perfect will and change His perfect desire, nor believe a lie.

I feel you also contradict yourself when you say the redemptive free will is a higher level of free even because it is not a slave to sin. Since that would indicate the more we are incapable of choosing sin the more free the will becomes, then why would sin be necessary for a free will?

Respectfully, it seems to me that you regard any choice whatsoever between good and evil as freely made simply because there was an option.


I was quoting you.

Eve sinned because she was beguiled by the tempting of the serpent, and Adam sinned by listening and following the beguiled woman. All three did not heed God. Hence the serpent contrived some propaganda, Eve was gullible and Adam probably lacked confidence in his own judgment.

First off, the entire episode would not have happened without the serpent. He received the greatest punishment. As for Adam and Eve, I tend to believe they had to learn just how good they had it by losing it, just like the prodigal son.

I think it would be irresponsible to not learn from their mistake by seeing that they were deceived into trying to fix what was not broken, and more importantly that God is trustworthy. It would also be hypocritical and self condemning to show no grace nor understanding considering that I too have sinned.

Well you know acting responsibly actually comes from caring about how our choices effect others. Hence we must love one another by walking in His Spirit. Well I think if we are truly sorry for what wrongs we do, then we will seek to atone. Jesus said that one act of Love covers a multitude of sins, and those forgiven much do Love much. I do not think blaming is productive. Jesus paid for our sins to fulfill the requirement of the law and yet he did not deserve punishment. We must all seek to have the mind of Christ.

The problem I see in your theology that does not in any way align with the Scriptures is that you are seeking to shift the blame to others as to why people sin. Even when you sin as a believer, you are not taking responsibility for it and you falsely assume Jesus is covering your sin (When He actually is not). For in order to God to cover future rebellion or sin done against Him, the Lord would have to agree with sin. But that is not possible because God is holy, just, and good. Ask yourself. Are there other responsibilities in your life that you are ignoring? Please do not answer this question. The answer is for yourself. There is a family member I know who always blamed everyone else for his problems instead of looking at himself and owning up that he is responsible. For usually I see the kind of belief you are proposing befitting for people who do not want to own up to their own problems. Maybe this is not the case for you, but you do appear to falsely think Jesus pays for future sin (When no such Scripture verse even remotely teaches such a thing). This is attempting to shift away responsibility and not to own up to anything.

In any event, I say these things not to wound you, but I say these things out of love so as to help you to see what the truth of God's Word says.
 
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"Free will" is a philosophical term. Quoting an ordinary dictionary is unhelpful, you need to quote something like this: Free Will (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

So if we do not have a free will choice, then how can we be judged if we are not really responsible for our own actions? That would be like a master who lightly smacks and yells at his dog (as a form of punishment) who has an uncontrollable pooping problem because it is sick. The dog cannot help but to poop, and yet the master is punishing the poor animal anyways. This is what Calvinism does. It punishes those who have no control but to be what they are. So this is why your theology fails and is totally illogical. Free will choice is what allows man to be responsible for his own sinful actions at a judgment. You take free will away, and you make either God responsible or something or someone else (Thereby shifting the blame to others or a thing so as not take responsibility for one's own sin).
 
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That's a strange theory. It seems to imply that God is in time.



Yes, but they must be compatibilist free will choices, not libertarian free will choices.
God is both in and outside of time.

No libertarian free will choice.
 
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So if we do not have a free will choice

Nobody is denying free will. It is the kind of free will that is being debated.

This is what Calvinism does.

You are misrepresenting Calvinism.

And how was your response at all relevant to what I'd said, anyway?

"Free will" is a philosophical term. Quoting an ordinary dictionary is unhelpful, you need to quote something like this: Free Will (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
 
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Does Man Have Free Will?

Free will is defined in a few different ways. Here is one of it's definitions.

Free will (Noun) - The ability to act at one's own discretion.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/defini...sh/free%2Bwill

In fact, the origin of the word "will" is especially important to look at, too. It says this..

Will (Verb) - To wish, desire, want, to will, or to choose.

Online Etymology Dictionary

Now, how can you have the desire for anything or to choose differently if you did not have the free choice (i.e. free will) to choose or to not to choose in the first place?

Anyways, here is a list of the different types of Free Will that I hope you shall consider.

The Three different types of Free Will:

#1. Man's Limited Slave to Sin Type Free Will.
#2. Man's Limited Redemptive Type Free Will.
#3. God's Limited to Doing Only Good Type Free Will.​

And the hypothetical Free Will that does not exist for any being within our universe.
Which is...


#1. Ultimate or Absolute Free Will.​

A. Man's Limited Slave to Sin Free Will:
All non-believers or people who have not genuinely accepted Christ as their Savior are slaves to sin in some way. Now, this does not mean that unbelievers are not capable of making limited free will choices that are correct or good for their own well being (like choosing not to murder, steal, fornicate, or do drugs). However, on the other hand they are limited in their free will in the sense that they are slaves to sin and will have some type of sin within their life that separates them from God.

B. Man's Limited Redemptive Type Free Will:
All true believers in Christ or those who genuinely accept Jesus as their Savior are set free from being a slave to sin. This gives the believer a higher level of free will than that of a non-believer who is incapable of not sinning habitually. Now, does this mean that the believer does not have the free will to no longer sin anymore? No, most certainly not. It just means that they are no longer bound to sin anymore and are given a higher status of limited free will (or limited choices). They are also not forced against their free will to have a continued salvation or to still be a believer in Christ if they decide to change their minds, too. They still must choose each day to serve the Lord or to not serve the Lord. For a believer can forfeit his or her salvation if they do not live for Christ and become a new creature; Thus, showing that they were born again.

C. God's Limited to Doing Only Good Type Free Will:
God is limited to doing only that which is good and right. For God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. God is love and in Him is no evil. He is the very embodiment of all that is Holy, just, perfect, and good in this life. For there is none good but God. In other words, God is incapable of doing any type of evil or sin. He is perfect and good in every way. His limitation is that He can only do that which is good and right. Which of course is a good limitation to have. So praise be to our God for being all that is loving and good.

D. Ultimate or Absolute Free Will:
No being in the universe has absolute or ultimate free will. For if absolute free will existed, then there would have to be a being who could do whatever they wanted whether good or evil with no restrictions or consequences attached whatsoever. In other words, this concept of Free Will is purely imaginary because no being possesses this type of Free Will type characteristics.

In other words, It is not God's will or desire that you sin and reject Him. Yes, you are under His creation, sovereign rule, and divine plan (because the Lord can work both good and evil for His purposes), but God does not approve of someone doing evil as if it was His approved of will or desire for your life. God is good. Not evil.

For the moment you take away free will (not ultimate free will) is the moment you make God responsible for directly creating evil and sin. However, there is no darkness in God at all. God created free willed beings that made the decision to be evil and to sin. God did not force Adam and Eve to rebel. They had a choice to either choose life or to choose death. They chose death. Not because God wanted them to. It was because they wanted to choose death.
I would think God did have "ultimate free will", but is all the more glorious because God chooses to only do good.
 
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I think 1 Timothy 2:3-4 and 2 Peter 3:9 are evidence that we are autonomous and God is not controlling our will. I these verses we see that God desires all men (and women of course) to repent and be saved but of course we know this will not happen. In many cases of the term “God’s will” they don’t always refer to something God has made to be true. In some cases this refers to God’s desire. The word “will” is often translated from the Greek word thélēma G2307 meaning

1) what one wishes or has determined shall be done a) of the purpose of God to bless mankind through Christ b) of what God wishes to be done by us

1) commands, precepts

2) will, choice, inclination, desire, pleasure

Some bible versions also translate will from the Greek word boúlomai G1014 meaning

1) to will deliberately, have a purpose, be minded

2) of willing as an affection, to desire

Both of these words can either mean made to be true or something someone desires. Personally I believe God designed us to be autonomous because He desires our love and fellowship. If God had designed us without the freedom to choose whether or not we would love Him would that love be of any value? Think of it like this. Let’s say you cast a spell on your wife and she has no choice but to love you. When she says I love you what would your first thought be? For me my first thought would be of course she loves me she has no other choice. To me it’s not even clear that this would truly be love. Love is a gift given freely. It’s not something you can take by force. It’s a genuine affection and emotion of someone towards another. Without free will there is no genuine affection or emotion because the love was not given by choice it was taken by force. When I think about which type of love would be of more value to me I believe it must be by free choice. Only then do you know that it is for real and genuine. Without free will love is just artificial. To me this explains why we are here on earth. If God wanted to create us without free will He could’ve created us to be obedient and to love Him then this world would be useless. He could’ve just created us this way in heaven. I believe this world is here to cultivate humans who will choose to love God of their own free will and to separate those who choose to love Him from those who don’t. This way God can have both true fellowship and love from us for all eternity.
I agree, but you might add: Man's first objective is and has been always to obtain Godly type Love since God cannot program that Love into people without their permission.
 
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Free will is a choice that leads you down a path that determines which road you want to take.

Free Will in the Bible:

#1. Joshua 24:15 KJV -
"Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve"

#2. Matthew 11:28 KJV -
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."

#3. John 7:17 KJV -
"If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God."

#4. John 7:37 KJV -
"If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink."

#5. Acts 2:38 KJV -
"Repent, and let everyone of you be baptized"

#6. Acts 3:19 KJV -
"Repent therefore and be converted"

#7. Acts 16:31 KJV -
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved"

#8. Acts 17:30 KJV -
"but now commands all men everywhere to repent"

#9. Revelation 22:17 KJV -
"Whoever wills, let him take the water of life freely."

#10. Genesis 4:7 KJV -
"If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."

#11. Revelation 22:17 KJ2
"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that hears say, Come. And let him that is thirsty come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."

#12. Luke 13:34 NLT -
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me.
OK good verses.
 
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In reference to Salvation:

I believe “Prevenient Grace” is the best way to harmonize what Scripture says as whole in regards to God’s Sovereignty and Man’s Free Will. Prevenient Grace is the belief that God draws men at certain times to see and understand the gospel so as to choose it or reject it of their own free will. Without this illumination or drawing by God, a person cannot understand the gospel. For in the Parable in the Sower, we learn that the first seed did not even understand the gospel message. The devil stole the seed out of their heart before they could understand it. So there are times where a person can hear the gospel and not understand it because they have not been drawn by God yet. But God will draw all men unto Him in His timing, though.


Prevenient Grace Verses:

John 1:9 says,
“That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.”

John 12:32 says,
“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”

John 16:8-11 says,
8 “And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.”

Romans 2:4 says,
“Or despise you the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?”

Titus 2:11 says,
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,”

1 Timothy 2:3-4 says,
3 “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

John 3:16 says,
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

2 Peter 3:9 which states that God “is not willing that any should perish, but for all to come to repentance.”

1 John 2:2 says,
“[Jesus] is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.” (Also see John 1:29 - the Lamb of God takes away the sins of the world).

Hebrews 2:9 essentially says,
"Jesus tasted death for everyone."

Matthew 13:15 says,
"For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.”

Matthew 23:37 (NLT) says,
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God's messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn't let me.”

Deuteronomy 30:19 says,
“I call heaven and earth as witness this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live”.

Acts of the Apostles 17:27 says, “he be not far from every one of us”

Acts of the Apostles 16:14 says,
“And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.” (Note: This was an opening of the heart to listen and it was not a change of heart to be instantly saved and regenerated).


Good Article on this topic:
What Biblical Evidence Is There For Prevenient Grace?
I have been all those soils at different times in my life. I feel God draws all mature adults until they reach the point they will never accept His pure charity as charity.
 
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Answer the questions will lead to my definition.

Well, no, actually.

There has been a lot written about free will over the centuries, and only a few self-consistent viewpoints are possible.

And most of your questions are meaningless, because they relate to a thing called "autonomous free will," which you refuse to define (and the ice-cream question I have already answered).
 
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Perhaps in the same way that I can predict with perfect accuracy that certain plot points will happen every time you play through a video game.
Playing a game is like choosing an ice-cream, which is not like denying Christ three and only three different time in one night.
 
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We all look at Eden as a perfect place. A place made for perfect Adam and Eve. However in Eden was the Serpent that God also made. The Serpent was made more "cunning" , having the skill to deceive more than any beast of the field. Now we can take this as a complete preconceived set up by God in order to deceive man into sin or we can simply accept that a test was provided in order to check obedience.
This is where it all starts and your answer to this question is how you define GOD.
God does not need to play games with us "testing" us, but provides opportunities for us the help us fulfill our earthly objective.
 
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In the title of the OP "Free Will" is in title case which grammatically points to a proper noun like a title or name of something (hence the title case). This is inconsistent with the rest of the case structure of the title of the OP and because it is enclosed in quotation marks we can be sure it is specific to these words.

This is suggestive that Free Will doesn't equal free will like Orthodox ≠ orthodox or Red Socks ≠ red socks. So what is Free Will? Well, it could be anything like the title of a dissertation or the name of a dog. No one really knows until it's subject matter is identified.

This doesn't stop here, with the added quotation marks it suggests it is a quotation from a source that carries either a non-traditional or controversial application or unknown meaning of the subject at hand. Remember, the subject at hand is the aforementioned proper noun "Free Will" which is still unidentified.

So charged with this information "Free Will" is a non-traditional, controversial or otherwise unknown application of the unidentified proper noun Free Will quoted from an unidentified source.
Sorry, I did poorly in English,
 
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I believe we have autonomous free will. And it means, we can freely want that ever we want. Foreknowledge doesn’t change that. God can know people so well that He knows what they will want in every situation.

And at least for me, I think I have free will and nothing or nobody forces me to want something against my own will.
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A Biblical example of people exercising "free will" which goes counter to what God expressly planned for them.
Note this passage from Jeremiah. God said “I have caused to cleave” That word is הדבקתי/ha’dabaq’thi. It is in the perfect or completed sense. God’s will, expressly stated, for the whole house of Israel and Judah, not just a chosen few, to cling to God as a belt clings to a man’s waist. It was done, finished, completed, in God’s sight, and, according to some arguments, nothing man can do will cause God’s will to not be done. But they, Israel and Judah, would not hear and obey, their will, vs. God’s will, So God destroyed them, vs. 14.

…..This passage very much speaks to God’s sovereign will, and man’s free will and agency. God stated very clearly what His will was, in terms that cannot be misunderstood. But, because the Israelites and Judeans would not hear, and obey, God destroyed them, instead of them being unto God, “for a people, and for a name, and for a praise, and for a glory, vs. 10.”

Jer 13:1 Thus saith the LORD unto me, Go and get thee a linen girdle, and put it upon thy loins, and put it not in water.
2 So I got a girdle according to the word of the LORD, and put it on my loins.
3 And the word of the LORD came unto me the second time, saying,
4 Take the girdle that thou hast got, which is upon thy loins, and arise, go to Euphrates, and hide it there in a hole of the rock.
5 So I went, and hid it by Euphrates, as the LORD commanded me.
6 And it came to pass after many days, that the LORD said unto me, Arise, go to Euphrates, and take the girdle from thence, which I commanded thee to hide there.
7 Then I went to Euphrates, and digged, and took the girdle from the place where I had hid it: and, behold, the girdle was marred, it was profitable for nothing.
8 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
9 Thus saith the LORD, After this manner will I mar the pride of Judah, and the great pride of Jerusalem.
10 This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing.
11 For as the girdle cleaveth to the loins of a man, so have I caused to cleave [הדבקתי/ha’dabaq’thi] unto me the whole house of Israel and the whole house of Judah, saith the LORD; that they might be unto me for a people, and for a name, and for a praise, and for a glory: but they would not hear.

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14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Note, verse 14, God said He will NOT have pity, will NOT spare, and will NOT have mercy but destroy them.
Good,
 
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The problem I see in your theology that does not in any way align with the Scriptures is that you are seeking to shift the blame to others as to why people sin. Even when you sin as a believer, you are not taking responsibility for it and you falsely assume Jesus is covering your sin (When He actually is not). For in order to God to cover future rebellion or sin done against Him, the Lord would have to agree with sin. But that is not possible because God is holy, just, and good. Ask yourself. Are there other responsibilities in your life that you are ignoring? Please do not answer this question. The answer is for yourself. There is a family member I know who always blamed everyone else for his problems instead of looking at himself and owning up that he is responsible. For usually I see the kind of belief you are proposing befitting for people who do not want to own up to their own problems. Maybe this is not the case for you, but you do appear to falsely think Jesus pays for future sin (When no such Scripture verse even remotely teaches such a thing). This is attempting to shift away responsibility and not to own up to anything.

In any event, I say these things not to wound you, but I say these things out of love so as to help you to see what the truth of God's Word says.
I can appreciate your attention to the matter of taking responsibility rather than shifting blame upon others. This does happen, sometimes deliberately and sometimes mistakenly. Having said that, I still see vanity as the problem even in those incidents. And since you are forthright enough to speak the truth of your concerns for me in a loving manner, perhaps I can address them in this post.

The problem I see in your theology is that it does not in any way align with the Scriptures in that you are seeking to shift the blame to others as to why people sin.
I agree that we will not find any scripture saying to shift blame to someone else for what you do. But nor is their any scripture saying to have no understanding and show no mercy because no one is decieved.

You mentioned in another post about God being blamed for sin if we do not take ownership for sin. This indicates that you believe that someone ultimately must be blamed.

The theology I study and which is borne out through psycho-semantics, focuses on how it is possible for shortcomings to occur due to circumstantial causes that no one should be blamed for, and subsequently require that there be grace through faith. I further would add that with a little distrust, misunderstanding, and some do it to them before they do it to you, these shortcomings can escalate and even be turned into all out war. Particularly if their is a spiritual entity cunning enough who could turn a personal profit by playing each side against the middle. For we all struggle to understand how evil is happening in the creation if God the Creator is Perfect? Let's not forget that Satan is both the tempter and the accuser of whom he tempts. He therefore must be playing the ends against the middle.

So while it is necessary to admit that there is a level of complicity involved, that is not near as important as understanding why. Saying they did it because they have a free will is simply a sentiment that invents a justification to blame through a form of circular reasoning, (He meant to do it because he could have not). Such an abuse of semantics such as free will, does not inspire any understanding and mercy, because it subverts such gracious and faithful virtues into either hypocritically trying to shift blame, or naively enabling and even sanctioning sin. Hence there are the foundations of authoritarian and libertarian ideologies.

Therefore it is also irresponsible and shifting blame to not admit that Eve was beguiled into sinning by the serpent. I'm saying she was tricked by someone smarter than her, and you're talking as if she could have helped it. Again, let's not forget that Satan is not just the tempter but also the accuser of those whom he tempts. His entire demeanor is full of distrust, without any grace through faith, and only contempt for others through glorification of self. May the simple truth in Christ of Love others as our self rule in our reasoning.

So let us examine the Truth revealed in scripture. Adam and Eve both confessed what they had done. I study semantics and they say to me that it is not possible that they could have purposed to be complicit in choosing to do evil, even because they were tricked into believing they were somehow the victims of an injustice. Moreover, scripture does not say that Adam and Eve were shifting blame and the report of scripture does not include any correction from God to either one of them concerning this, Whose perfect will would have been remiss if that were the case.

So you need to ask yourself why you think people are not tricked into sinning, because such psycho-semantics in your thoughts and words indicate that you think sin is something you wish you could get to do. In other words you project in your judgment that no one needs to trick you into doing it, because you would volunteer. Of course, I believe that is not true and would intercede for you by testifying that you don't see this.

And this is how Satan is beguiling people through a free will theology, even though they are completely blind to His psychological manipulation. You're so focused on the disobedience as the problem and concerned with your own self image of taking responsibility, that you do not see that the real sin is accepting a hidden premise that God is a treacherous lying tyrant keeping good things from us. That is a slander of God that becomes repeated in the subconscious every time it is taught that Adam and Eve knew exactly what they were doing. The semantics show that where there is a rebellious spirit towards God, there is this same false and corrupt image of god.

That's right, Eve had to be tricked, even because God is not a treacherous lying tyrant. And if God were to punish people for believing that, or not allow such a thought, it would only serve to enforce that belief. Such is the cunning of Satan's schemes.

Hence the lesson to be learned from the incident is not: "admit you sinned and don't claim you were deceived or misled, and thereby you will be a stand up person taking responsibility with courage and honesty". Nor is it an authoritarian ideology of "do not disobey God because He will punish you".

The lesson is:

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.
Ephes
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
ians 6:10-18


2 Corinthians 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Romans 7:11,
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Romans 7:20
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Maybe this is not the case for you, but you do appear to falsely think Jesus pays for future sin (When no such Scripture verse even remotely teaches such a thing). This is attempting to shift away responsibility and not to own up to anything.
Let's examine what I said: Well I think if we are truly sorry for what wrongs we do, then we will seek to atone. Jesus said that one act of Love covers a multitude of sins, and those forgiven much do Love much.
The sentiment above is meant to express that we should atone for what we do wrong through acts of Love including forgiving others, if in fact we are sorry. There is no sentiment indicating shifting blame.

I do not think blaming is productive. Jesus paid for our sins to fulfill the requirement of the law and yet he did not deserve punishment. We must all seek to have the mind of Christ.

The above sentiment only points out that Jesus died a substitutionary death on our behalf according to the requirement of the law so that we may be set free from the bondage and born through the promise. In other words he was innocent of sin and yet he took the blame. For elsewhere it is said that he became sin so that we could become the righteousness of God. It does not imply that he pays for my sins since we are not under the law.
 
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