What do you think the Mark of the Beast is?? And what is sin about it?

[HeartenedHeart]

Specifically...…….where did I add to the Word of God????

Look at your bracketed word (Holy Spirit). That is not present in the text, English, koine Greek or other. You added two words, and implicated God (Holy Ghost), into a place in 2 Thess. 2:7, which contextually and historically He is not.

Do you acknowledge you added those two words (Holy Spirit) into the text, 2 Thes. 2:7?

There is also the (wrongly concluded) additional errors because of that addition. The first error, led to the latter errors.

Would you like to consider 2 Thes. 2:7 in its context and historical position?

1. Yes. Revelation is tied to Daniel.

Ok, then we can begin here, with this acknowledgement.

Revelation is actually the unveiling of Daniel as Daniel was told in chapter 12 to seal HIS book until the time of the end.

Partially correct and partially incorrect. It was not the entire 'book' of Daniel that was sealed, for Daniel was given specific identifications, of many of the items in vision (Dan. 2, 7, 8, etc), even he knew specifically that Babylon was first (Head of Gold, Lion with Eagles wings), Medo-Persia came second (Chest and arms of Silver, Bear raised up with 3 ribs, Ram with two horns, one raised higher, attacking in three directions), followed by Greece as third (belly and thighs of brass, Leopard with four heads and four wings, and He-goat with notable horn, that becomes four horns), and finally comes to the last images and their instruction.

However, there was a 'portion' (small 'book') of the 'vision' of Daniel 8 that was not understood, being Dan. 8:13-14,26, and so further light had to come later, and as we see in Revelation 10, that portion of Daniel that was sealed dealing with "time", in the 'little book' was finally "opened" by Jesus (Rev. 10:1), and this before the ending of the time prophecy in Daniel 8:13-14,26, as we see in Rev 10:6, dealing with "time" prophecies.

Thus all that was in Daniel, including the "time" prophecies, and that which are inclusive of them, are fully opened, and have been for over 170 years.

The phrase "time of the end" is not "the end of time". The phrase "time of the end", deals with the ending "time" periods of Daniel 7-12, the 1,260, 1,290, 1,335, 70 weeks all of which are merely sub-sections of the greater, 2,300. The "time of the end" is when the "time" prophecies were about to conclude, from the periods of A.D. 1798 (ending of the 1,260 (beginning, A.D. 538) and 1,290 (beginning A.D. 508)), unto the ending of the 1,335 (beginning A.D. 508) and 2,300 (beginning 457 B.C.), which both terminated in A.D. 1844. Thus the "time of the end" is the period of time between A.D. 1798 and A.D. 1844. The sealed 'portions' of the vision of Daniel have been opened for a long time now.

This all may be demonstrated point by point, in numerous ways. To begin with, begin to consider that the word for 'book' in Rev. 10 is not merely the koine Greek for the whole of a book, but means a portion, a 'little section' of a book (βιβλαριδιονG974 N-ASN), and the rest of the context of Rev. 10, speaks of "time" specifically, when it would be 'finished', hence the "time of the end' (of the prophetic times given therein, not the 'end' of the world, though we are near its end even now).

 

[Major1]

Look at your bracketed word (Holy Spirit). That is not present in the text, English, koine Greek or other. You added two words, and implicated God (Holy Ghost), into a place in 2 Thess. 2:7, which contextually and historically He is not.

Do you acknowledge you added those two words (Holy Spirit) into the text, 2 Thes. 2:7?

There is also the (wrongly concluded) additional errors because of that addition. The first error, led to the latter errors.

Would you like to consider 2 Thes. 2:7 in its context and historical position?

Ok, then we can begin here, with this acknowledgement.

Partially correct and partially incorrect. It was not the entire 'book' of Daniel that was sealed, for Daniel was given specific identifications, of many of the items in vision (Dan. 2, 7, 8, etc), even he knew specifically that Babylon was first (Head of Gold, Lion with Eagles wings), Medo-Persia came second (Chest and arms of Silver, Bear raised up with 3 ribs, Ram with two horns, one raised higher, attacking in three directions), followed by Greece as third (belly and thighs of brass, Leopard with four heads and four wings, and He-goat with notable horn, that becomes four horns), and finally comes to the last images and their instruction.

However, there was a 'portion' (small 'book') of the 'vision' of Daniel 8 that was not understood, being Dan. 8:13-14,26, and so further light had to come later, and as we see in Revelation 10, that portion of Daniel that was sealed dealing with "time", in the 'little book' was finally "opened" by Jesus (Rev. 10:1), and this before the ending of the time prophecy in Daniel 8:13-14,26, as we see in Rev 10:6, dealing with "time" prophecies.

Thus all that was in Daniel, including the "time" prophecies, and that which are inclusive of them, are fully opened, and have been for over 170 years.

The phrase "time of the end" is not "the end of time". The phrase "time of the end", deals with the ending "time" periods of Daniel 7-12, the 1,260, 1,290, 1,335, 70 weeks all of which are merely sub-sections of the greater, 2,300. The "time of the end" is when the "time" prophecies were about to conclude, from the periods of A.D. 1798 (ending of the 1,260 (beginning, A.D. 538) and 1,290 (beginning A.D. 508)), unto the ending of the 1,335 (beginning A.D. 508) and 2,300 (beginning 457 B.C.), which both terminated in A.D. 1844. Thus the "time of the end" is the period of time between A.D. 1798 and A.D. 1844. The sealed 'portions' of the vision of Daniel have been opened for a long time now.

This all may be demonstrated point by point, in numerous ways. To begin with, begin to consider that the word for 'book' in Rev. 10 is not merely the koine Greek for the whole of a book, but means a portion, a 'little section' of a book (βιβλαριδιονG974 N-ASN), and the rest of the context of Rev. 10, speaks of "time" specifically, when it would be 'finished', hence the "time of the end' (of the prophetic times given therein, not the 'end' of the world, though we are near its end even now).

You are correct. I used the "brackets to indicate that what I said was MY OWN OPINION. That is what "Parenthesis" mean and was NOT an addition to the Word of God so I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE anything was added.

I am at a loss as to why you are being so adversarial and argumentative.

Do YOU really think that is the proper way to communicate and grow???

So then, you asked me...………….Or stated to me...……….

"Would you like to consider 2 Thes. 2:7 in its context and historical position??

IMO, the "Mystery of pawlessness" was already at work in Paul's day it continuues to work today. So in that context the verse would be "historical'.

However, the lawlessness did not end and it has not gotten better so in that context the verse would be "futureistic".

Anyone would have to be blind and deaf and living on a remote island somewhere to think that the world has not grow worse and worse and continues to do so.

IMO, the ONLY reason the world has not collapsed in on itself is the work of the Holy Spirit who is the "RESTRAINER" in 2 Thess. 2:7.

Has government been the one to hold back evil?
Is it the American Army that has restrained evil?
Is it the United Nations which has held back evil?

NO!. It is the Holy Spirit! Then when HE is removed at the Rapture it will be as it a cork has been removed from a Champagne bottle! ALL hell will break lose because there will be nothing RESTRAINING evil.

It is after the Rapture that the A/C will be revealed which is yet in the FUTURE in 2 Thess. 2:8...…...
"THEN shall that WICKED be revealed whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming".

The RESTRAINER is the Holy Spirit in Paul's day, and He is the Restrainer TODAY. The WICKED in verse #8 is the Anti-Christ of the future who will be seen and know AFTER the Rapture.


YOU then stated that...………………..
"It was not the entire 'book' of Daniel that was sealed, for Daniel was given specific identifications, of many of the items in vision.....".

Obviously that is correct. HISTORY itself proves some of the events included in the Book of Daniel.
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The Book of Daniel, is the key that unlocks the Book of revelation and visa versa. Without unlocking the Book of Revelation from its key, the book remains a mystery to us.

It is also obvious that a lot of what Daniel wrote was fulfilled (has come to pass historicaly) but the entire future is fully prophesied and presented in the Book of Daniel, and Daniel pictures fully paint the Revelation.


YOU then stated...…………...
"Thus the "time of the end" is the period of time between A.D. 1798 and A.D. 1844. The sealed 'portions' of the vision of Daniel have been opened for a long time now."

That is NONESENSE and is in fact the teaching of the Seventh Day Advantists. Seventh-day Adventists have a truly unique understanding of Daniel, differing from any other Christian denomination and your posings and comments and attitude tell me that you are a SDA.

According to your SDA theology, The 2300 days are actually 2300 years -
Seventh-day Adventists apply the "prophetic year-day principle" to convert what the KJV Bible calls "days" into "years":

From...…...…..Seventh-day Adventists Believe, p. 323, (1989).
"What are the 2300 days or '2,300 evenings-mornings,' as the original Hebrew reads? According to Genesis 1, an "evening and morning" is a day. ...a time period in symbolic prophecy is also symbolic: a prophetic day represents a year. So, as many Christians throughout the centuries have believed, the 2300 days of Daniel 8 signify 2300 years literal years."

The 2300 days start in 457 BC and end on October 22, 1844. -

There is no starting date given in the Bible for the 2300-day prophecy. In order to obtain a starting date for the 2300 days, Adventists attempt to connect the prophecy of Daniel 8 with the 70-week prophecy of Daniel 9, which they claim has a starting date of 457 BC.