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What do you think of Joel Osteen?

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He can withdraw like Jesus at night in his hotel/house, but he needs a private jet for that? that is a luxury not a necessity.
People that don't have private jets, have problems with the communion with God now?

God grants desire as seen in philippians 2: 13. For a poor man it is a luxury but for the rich it is need. Don't worry.
 
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God grants desire as seen in philippians 2: 13. For a poor man it is a luxury but for the rich it is need. Don't worry.

Hes fleet of planes is also a need?? for personal use? joy ride or something, with the gospel money? are you sure?
 
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Hes fleet of planes is also a need?? for personal use? joy ride or something, with the gospel money? are you sure?
Is God against joy? Who told you that?

Heaven is full of abundant joy. So desire for that abundance to come to earth.
 
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Truth is one. Truth doesn't present contradictory ideas.

Truth is self evident.

Why would we presume someone is teaching truth ,because they define the meaning of truth.
Example
I know Japanese is a language but I am clueless as to speak it.
 
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Is it doing any good judging behind his back?

Judging without knowing can be a real mistake.
Even in other denomations, I knew of a man who gave 50% of his income back to the Church.
He simply could not avoid being blessed.
He built a beautiful house ,was blessed in all his work.
His property , the materials everything simply was provided by multiple blessings from God.
For some it was too big, it was 5000 sq feet.
So some critized Him not knowing it was not His ability but God's gifts that provided.
This man was on a Baptist pay scale and continued giving back to the Church.
It is sad when people criticize the blessing of God.
I tell you one thing ,His critics will never have what they speak against.

There are some Preachers and Bishops who had parents who worked very hard in and outside of Church.
Those Men when they did the right thing inherited the Work of their family.
They are good solid hard Preaching Pastors true men of God.
If they are wealthy who are we to say that's not right ,are they to toss 2 lifetimes of hard work away to please the status que?
 
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Why would we presume someone is teaching truth ,because they define the meaning of truth.
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I know Japanese is a language but I am clueless as to speak it.

Why would we presume someone is not sharing truth & having fellowship, because they define the meaning of truth?
 
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Why would we presume someone is not sharing truth & having fellowship, because they define the meaning of truth?

Because the truth they are sharing is contrary to who they share their preception of the truth with.
You cannot have one-sided fellowship.
Backhanded statements that distract from thread topic apply to the individual's reasoning but not the core groups value system.

Fellowship is mutual values between different individuals , it is not
Attempts to correct your pier group with statement's that are ambiguous.
 
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Because the truth they are sharing is contrary to who they share their preception of the truth with.
You cannot have one-sided fellowship.
Backhanded statements that distract from thread topic apply to the individual's reasoning but not the core groups value system.

Fellowship is mutual values between different individuals , it is not
Attempts to correct your pier group with statement's that are ambiguous.

Which statements were ambiguous?
 
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Because the truth they are sharing is contrary to who they share their preception of the truth with.
You cannot have one-sided fellowship.
Backhanded statements that distract from thread topic apply to the individual's reasoning but not the core groups value system.

Fellowship is mutual values between different individuals , it is not
Attempts to correct your pier group with statement's that are ambiguous.

Are you trying to show yourself perfectly compliant with WOF teachings and forum rules just by quoting the forum rules and quoting verses?

Do you suppose yourself to be the custodian of WOF core teachings? Can't anyone else have WOF teachings and knowledge of forum rules?

Why not we be specific?
 
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