WHAT, do you think, is hell?

[&Abel]

1 Enoch

[SIZE=-2]1.[/SIZE] And in those days shall the earth also give back that which has been entrusted to it,
And Sheol also shall give back that which it has received,
And hell shall give back that which it owes.
[SIZE=-2]5a.[/SIZE] For in those days the Elect One shall arise,
[SIZE=-2]2.[/SIZE] And he shall choose the righteous and holy from among them:
For the day has drawn nigh that they should be saved.
[SIZE=-2]3.[/SIZE] And the Elect One shall in those days sit on My throne,
And his mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel:
For the Lord of Spirits hath given [SIZE=-1](them)[/SIZE] to him and hath glorified him.
[SIZE=-2]4.[/SIZE] And in those days shall the mountains leap like rams,
And the hills also shall skip like lambs satisfied with milk,
And the faces of [SIZE=-1][all][/SIZE] the angels in heaven shall be lighted up with joy.
[SIZE=-2]5b.[/SIZE] And the earth shall rejoice,
[SIZE=-2]5c.[/SIZE] And the righteous shall dwell upon it,
[SIZE=-2]5d.[/SIZE] And the elect shall walk thereon.

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enoch.htm

Job 26

5"The (C)departed spirits tremble
Under the waters and their inhabitants.
6"Naked is (D)Sheol before Him,
And [a](E)Abaddon has no covering.

Isaiah 26

19Your (AK)dead will live;
Their corpses will rise
You who lie in the dust, (AL)awake and shout for joy,
For your dew is as the dew of the dawn,
And the earth will give birth to the departed spirits.
20Come, my people, (AM)enter into your rooms
And close your doors behind you;
Hide for a little (AN)while
Until (AO)indignation runs its course.

Revelation 20

13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and (AT)death and Hades (AU)gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them (AV)according to their deeds.
14Then (AW)death and Hades were thrown into (AX)the lake of fire This is the (AY)second death, the lake of fire.
15And if anyone's name was not found written in (AZ)the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

 

[LightSeaker]

these were researchers apparently(I don't know what they were looking for) but they abandoned the project after hearing what they heard

The Soviets drilled the deepest well ever dug. They called it Kola Superdeep Borehole.It was competed in 1989. The depth of their well is 7.62 mi. When you drill that deep heat becomes a huge problem. Rock becomes soft and can't be drilled.

As Soul_Searcher indicated, the hell video is a total hoax.

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[&Abel]

2 Esdras

[76] He answered me and said, "I will show you that also, but do not be associated with those who have shown scorn, nor number yourself among those who are tormented.
[77] For you have a treasure of works laid up with the Most High; but it will not be shown to you until the last times.
[78] Now, concerning death, the teaching is: When the decisive decree has gone forth from the Most High that a man shall die, as the spirit leaves the body to return again to him who gave it, first of all it adores the glory of the Most High.
[79] And if it is one of those who have shown scorn and have not kept the way of the Most High, and who have despised his law, and who have hated those who fear God --
[80] such spirits shall not enter into habitations, but shall immediately wander about in torments, ever grieving and sad, in seven ways.
[81] The first way, because they have scorned the law of the Most High.
[82] The second way, because they cannot now make a good repentance that they may live.
[83] The third way, they shall see the reward laid up for those who have trusted the covenants of the Most High.
[84] The fourth way, they shall consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days.
[85] The fifth way, they shall see how the habitations of the others are guarded by angels in profound quiet.
[86] The sixth way, they shall see how some of them will pass over into torments.
[87] The seventh way, which is worse than all the ways that have been mentioned, because they shall utterly waste away in confusion and be consumed with shame, and shall wither with fear at seeing the glory of the Most High before whom they sinned while they were alive, and before whom they are to be judged in the last times.
[88] "Now this is the order of those who have kept the ways of the Most High, when they shall be separated from their mortal body.
[89] During the time that they lived in it, they laboriously served the Most High, and withstood danger every hour, that they might keep the law of the Lawgiver perfectly.
[90] Therefore this is the teaching concerning them:
[91] First of all, they shall see with great joy the glory of him who receives them, for they shall have rest in seven orders.
[92] The first order, because they have striven with great effort to overcome the evil thought which was formed with them, that it might not lead them astray from life into death.
[93] The second order, because they see the perplexity in which the souls of the ungodly wander, and the punishment that awaits them.
[94] The third order, they see the witness which he who formed them bears concerning them, that while they were alive they kept the law which was given them in trust.
[95] The fourth order, they understand the rest which they now enjoy, being gathered into their chambers and guarded by angels in profound quiet, and the glory which awaits them in the last days.
[96] The fifth order, they rejoice that they have now escaped what is corruptible, and shall inherit what is to come; and besides they see the straits and toil from which they have been delivered, and the spacious liberty which they are to receive and enjoy in immortality.
[97] The sixth order, when it is shown to them how their face is to shine like the sun, and how they are to be made like the light of the stars, being incorruptible from then on.
[98] The seventh order, which is greater than all that have been mentioned, because they shall rejoice with boldness, and shall be confident without confusion, and shall be glad without fear, for they hasten to behold the face of him whom they served in life and from whom they are to receive their reward when glorified.
[99] This is the order of the souls of the righteous, as henceforth is announced; and the aforesaid are the ways of torment which those who would not give heed shall suffer hereafter."

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/apocrypha_ot/2esdr.htm

 

[LightSeaker]

evidence? sounds pretty real to me

Souls can make sounds? I don't think so. The video is a fake.

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[&Abel]

The Soviets drilled the deepist well ever dug. They called it Kola Superdeep Borehole.It was competed in 1989. The depth of their well is 7.62 mi. When you drill that deep heat becomes a huge problem. Rock becomes soft and can't be drilled.

As Soul_Searcher indicated, it's a total hoax.

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show some evidence

 

[LightSeaker]

show some evidence

I haven't seen any evidance that it is real, and you haven't provided any. What I do know is that souls do not make sounds
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[&Abel]

Luke 16

19"Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day.
20"And a poor man named Lazarus (S)was laid at his gate, covered with sores,
21and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores.
22"Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to (T)Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried.
23"In (U)Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.
24"And he cried out and said, '(V)Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in (W)this flame.'
25"But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that (X)during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony.
26'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.'
27"And he said, 'Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father's house--
28for I have five brothers--in order that he may (Y)warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
29"But Abraham said, 'They have (Z)Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.'
30"But he said, 'No, (AA)father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!'
31"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'"

The Epistle of the Apostles

27 For to that end went I down unto the place of Lazarus, and preached unto the righteous and the prophets, that they might come out of the rest which is below and come up into that which is above; and I poured out upon them with my right hand the water (?) (baptism, Eth.) of life and forgiveness and salvation from all evil, as I have done unto you and unto them that believe on me. But if any man believe on me and do not my commandments, although he have confessed my name, he hath no profit therefrom but runneth a vain race: for such will find themselves in perdition and destruction, because they have despised my commandments.

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/apocrypha_nt/episaps.htm

The Apostles Creed

Peter 1 I believe in God the Father Almighty
John 2 Maker of heaven and earth
James 3 And in Jesus Christ his only Son, our Lord
Andrew 4 Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost; born of the Virgin Mary
Philip 5 Suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead and buried
Thomas 6 He descended into hell, the third day he rose again from the dead
Bartholomew 7 He ascended into heaven; sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty
Matthew 8 From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead
James, the son of Alpheus 9 I believe In the Holy Ghost, the holy Catholic Church
Simon Zelotes 10 The communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins
Jude, the brother of James 11 The resurrection of the body
Matthias 12 Life everlasting. Amen

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/LostBooks/apostles_creed.htm

 

[&Abel]

1 Enoch

5. I saw the spirits of the children of men who were dead, and their voice went forth to heaven and made suit. [SIZE=-2]6.[/SIZE] Then I asked Raphael the angel who was with me, and I said unto him: "This spirit--whose is it whose voice goeth forth and maketh suit?"
7. And he answered me saying: 'This is the spirit which went forth from Abel, whom his brother Cain slew, and he makes his suit against him till his seed is destroyed from the face of the earth, and his seed is annihilated from amongst the seed of men.'

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enoch.htm

 

[&Abel]

Revelaton 6

9When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw (U)underneath the (V)altar the (W)souls of those who had been slain (X)because of the word of God, and because of the (Y)testimony which they had maintained;
10and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, "(Z)How long, O (AA)Lord, (AB)holy and true, will You refrain from (AC)judging and avenging our blood on (AD)those who dwell on the earth?"
11And (AE)there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should (AF)rest for a little while longer, (AG)until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be (AH)completed also.

these are the spirits that make suit to heaven

 

[Absolute truth]

1 Enoch

5. I saw the spirits of the children of men who were dead, and their voice went forth to heaven and made suit. [SIZE=-2]6.[/SIZE] Then I asked Raphael the angel who was with me, and I said unto him: "This spirit--whose is it whose voice goeth forth and maketh suit?"
7. And he answered me saying: 'This is the spirit which went forth from Abel, whom his brother Cain slew, and he makes his suit against him till his seed is destroyed from the face of the earth, and his seed is annihilated from amongst the seed of men.'

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enoch.htm

Hi &Abel,

This language is a spiritual language exactly like "ABEL" who's blood cried out to the Lord when Cain killed Him. Does blood literally call out to the Lord? Do the scriptures not state that the dead "know not anything"? "The memory OF THEM (their actual memory, they remember nothing) is gone".

The passages you've quoted are symbolic for death not literal physical death, unless scripture is speaking of one who dies physically in the event that is being spoken of. In other words, when death is being spoken of in scripture their are two ways to look at it....The person literally dies and is buried....OR....the person is said to be dead but the passage is applying a spiritual death such as most of scripture. When the scriptures speak of death following a literal physical death, they are speaking of a state of consciousness in a spiritual symbolic state. That spiritual state is changed by the lord during the lake of fire and is the whole purpose for it. It is this wrath and indignation judgment that is where the world will learn righteousness (Isa 26:9).


Jesus said "let the dead bury the dead". Were those who were burying their dead physically dead as well? Of course not. Death is not a finality but a transition from one state of consciousness to another. In other words those who were spiritually dead were the ones who buried the literal physical dead and therefore they too even in their flesh were in hades (the state of the dead not a place. It is a state of consciousness. The elect of God have that aionios kingdom life in them now as they walk the earth while those who do not are already in a state of hades.

They will remain that way untill the end of the kingdom age when they are raised to be judged according to their works. Once the correction of the lake of fire (again....symbolic not literal) has completed its course they too will be made alive at its completion.

Judgement is never executed with the absence of Gods love. It is exicuted in love just as a parent executes correction to their own child in love not in the anbsence of love and if it is done this way the parent is usaully charged with child abuse.

With this said this false doctrine of eternal torment for the lost is clearly stating that man is more loving and kind to the lost than the god you say you serve.

1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If shalany man's work l be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Its one thing to promote hate and barbaric imaginations but the worst of this whole theology is how it portrays our all knowing God who IS LOVE not merely capable of loving. These passages speak of the love of God who uses this fire for the purpose of correction. It is the works that are first judged according the what they have built on the only foundation whereby men can build on and that is Christ Jesus. Once judged God determines the amount of lashes one would recieve based on their works. If any mans works remain He shall recieve a reward but if the man has done no go works then he shall suffer loss (of reward) but the man himself shall be saved. I dont know how this is so hard to understand.

As such, everything , and I mean everything He does cannot be seperated from who He is, and He is love. So, all that He does , He does in love.

His justice......is done in love.
His wrath.......is done in love.
His correction. is done in love.
His vengence..is done in love.
His Trials, tribulation, wrath and indignation......are all done.....IN LOVE.

God is love AND just, not love OR just.

I have repeated this over and over again.......At some point all mankind will allow the word of the Lord to define their theology instead of our theologies defining the scriptures.



God Bless, Dave

 

[&Abel]

Hi &Abel,

This language is a spiritual language exactly like "ABEL" who's blood cried out to the Lord when Cain killed Him. Does blood literally call out to the Lord? Do the scriptures not state that the dead "know not anything"? "The memory OF THEM (their actual memory, they remember nothing) is gone".

The passages you've quoted are symbolic for death not literal physical death, unless scripture is speaking of one who dies physically in the event that is being spoken of. In other words, when death is being spoken of in scripture their are two ways to look at it....The person literally dies and is buried....OR....the person is said to be dead but the passage is applying a spiritual death such as most of scripture. When the scriptures speak of death following a literal physical death, they are speaking of a state of consciousness in a spiritual symbolic state. That spiritual state is changed by the lord during the lake of fire and is the whole purpose for it. It is this wrath and indignation judgment that is where the world will learn righteousness (Isa 26:9).


Jesus said "let the dead bury the dead". Were those who were burying their dead physically dead as well? Of course not. Death is not a finality but a transition from one state of consciousness to another. In other words those who were spiritually dead were the ones who buried the literal physical dead and therefore they too even in their flesh were in hades (the state of the dead not a place. It is a state of consciousness. The elect of God have that aionios kingdom life in them now as they walk the earth while those who do not are already in a state of hades.

They will remain that way untill the end of the kingdom age when they are raised to be judged according to their works. Once the correction of the lake of fire (again....symbolic not literal) has completed its course they too will be made alive at its completion.

Judgement is never executed with the absence of Gods love. It is exicuted in love just as a parent executes correction to their own child in love not in the anbsence of love and if it is done this way the parent is usaully charged with child abuse.

With this said this false doctrine of eternal torment for the lost is clearly stating that man is more loving and kind to the lost than the god you say you serve.

1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If shalany man's work l be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Its one thing to promote hate and barbaric imaginations but the worst of this whole theology is how it portrays our all knowing God who IS LOVE not merely capable of loving. These passages speak of the love of God who uses this fire for the purpose of correction. It is the works that are first judged according the what they have built on the only foundation whereby men can build on and that is Christ Jesus. Once judged God determines the amount of lashes one would recieve based on their works. If any mans works remain He shall recieve a reward but if the man has done no go works then he shall suffer loss (of reward) but the man himself shall be saved. I dont know how this is so hard to understand.

As such, everything , and I mean everything He does cannot be seperated from who He is, and He is love. So, all that He does , He does in love.

His justice......is done in love.
His wrath.......is done in love.
His correction. is done in love.
His vengence..is done in love.
His Trials, tribulation, wrath and indignation......are all done.....IN LOVE.

God is love AND just, not love OR just.

I have repeated this over and over again.......At some point all mankind will allow the word of the Lord to define their theology instead of our theologies defining the scriptures.



God Bless, Dave

when it comes to this audio, I think God allowed for the spiritual to be recorded physically(briefly)

 

[&Abel]

1 Enoch


[SIZE=-2]1.[/SIZE] Then said I: 'For what object is this blessed land, which is entirely filled with trees, and this accursed valley between?' [SIZE=-2]2.[/SIZE] Then Uriel, one of the holy angels who was with me, answered and said: 'This accursed valley is for those who are accursed for ever: Here shall all the accursed be gathered together who utter with their lips against the Lord unseemly words and of His glory speak hard things.
Here shall they be gathered together, and here shall be their place of judgement. [SIZE=-2]3.[/SIZE] In the last days there shall be upon them the spectacle of righteous judgement in the presence of the righteous for ever: here shall the merciful bless the Lord of Glory, the Eternal King. 4. In the days of judgement over the former, they shall bless Him for the mercy in accordance with which He has assigned them [SIZE=-1](their lot)[/SIZE].' [SIZE=-2]5.[/SIZE] Then I blessed the Lord of Glory and set forth His glory and lauded Him gloriously.

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/enoch.htm

whether or not the audio is real, hell is very real

 

[Absolute truth]

when it comes to this audio, I think God allowed for the spiritual to be recorded physically(briefly)

Hi &Abel,

I am not trying to be rude but you see the problem here is that you are allowing what YOU THINK to take precidence over what the scriptures are declaring and this is the biggest problem with Orthodox theology.

God Bless, Dave

 

[&Abel]

Hi &Abel,

I am not trying to be rude but you see the problem here is that you are allowing what YOU THINK to take precidence over what the scriptures are declaring and this is the biggest problem with Orthodox theology.

God Bless, Dave

I've provided plenty of scripture to prove my case

 

[&Abel]

what exactly do you believe the scriptures are declaring?

 

[Absolute truth]

what exactly do you believe the scriptures are declaring?

All of scripture ultimately declares the salvation of all mankind. Every man in his own order to be testified in due time (1Co 15:23).


1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

God Bless, Dave

 

[&Abel]

All of scripture ultimately declares the salvation of all mankind. Every man in his own order to be testified in due time (1Co 15:23).


1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

God Bless, Dave

what translation is that?


1 Timothy 2

1First of all, then, I urge that (A)entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men,
2(B)for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
3This is good and acceptable in the sight of (C)God our Savior,
4(D)who desires all men to be (E)saved and to (F)come to the knowledge of the truth.
5For there is (G)one God, and (H)one mediator also between God and men, the (I)man Christ Jesus,
6who (J)gave Himself as a ransom for all, the (K)testimony given at (L)the proper time.
7(M)For this I was appointed a preacher and (N)an apostle ((O)I am telling the truth, I am not lying) as a teacher of (P)the Gentiles in faith and truth.
8Therefore (Q)I want the men (R)in every place to pray, (S)lifting up (T)holy hands, without wrath and dissension.

he did give himself up for all men and yet many men will reject his gift

 

[Soul Searcher]

I have saw many jump on that word [desires] from a few of the newer translations as though it means that it is just a passing whim that can not happen. but that is not the case... consider these.
[KJV]1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
[Webster]1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
[ASV]1Ti 2:4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth.
[YLT]1Ti 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;

And the meaning of the word in question

θέλω / ἐθέλω
thelō / ethelō
Thayer Definition:
1) to will, have in mind, intend
1a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose
1b) to desire, to wish
1c) to love
1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doing
1d) to take delight in, have pleasure

Now consider this
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

It is much more than a passing whim or wishful thinking. It is the plan. It is a sworn oath. It is the will of God and no matter if you call it a desire, a wish or a declaration it still has the same meaning.

 

[&Abel]

I have saw many jump on that word [desires] from a few of the newer translations as though it means that it is just a passing whim that can not happen. but that is not the case... consider these.
[KJV]1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
[Webster]1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
[ASV]1Ti 2:4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth.
[YLT]1Ti 2:4 who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;

And the meaning of the word in question

θέλω / ἐθέλω
thelō / ethelō
Thayer Definition:
1) to will, have in mind, intend
1a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose
1b) to desire, to wish
1c) to love
1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doing
1d) to take delight in, have pleasure

Now consider this
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

It is much more than a passing whim or wishful thinking. It is the plan. It is a sworn oath. It is the will of God and no matter if you call it a desire, a wish or a declaration it still has the same meaning.

well what it means is that he wants all men to be saved...but its up to them to respond to his calling

 

[Soul Searcher]

show some evidence

You can find many sources if you just google sounds from hell hoax as this is a well known hoax. Unfortunately you will also find some folks that claim it is true. I guess they want hell to be real cause to them that means that heaven is real and they are going to the latter. If they would stop and use a little common sense they would see right away that it is bogus.

One source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_to_Hell_hoax
United States tabloids soon ran the story, and sound files — recordings of those alleged supplications from the damned — began appearing on various sites across the Internet. The story eventually made its way to TBN, which broadcasted it on the network, claiming it to be "proof" of the literal existence of Hell as taught in some denominations of Christianity.
Åge Rendalen, a Norwegian teacher, disgusted with what he perceived to be mass gullibility, decided to augment the tale at TBN's expense.[2] Having heard the original story on TBN during a visit to the US, he wrote to the network, originally claiming that he disbelieved the tale but, upon his return to Norway, supposedly read a "factual account" of the story. According to Rendalen, the "story" claimed not only that the cursed well was real, but that a bat-like apparition had risen out of it before blazing a trail across the Russian sky.

Rendalen deliberately mistranslated a Norwegian article — an insignificant piece about a local building inspector — and submitted both the original story and the "translation" to TBN, along with a letter which included his real name, phone number, and address, as well as those of a pastor friend who knew about the hoax and had agreed to expose it to anyone who called seeking verification.

However, TBN did not verify Rendalen's claims and aired the story as "proof" of the validity of the original story.