What do you see masturbating as? Sin? Sorry about all the topics you must have!

[BloodwashedPilgrim]

Masturbation isn't listed as "against the Spirit."

However, making rules like "eat not, touch not" IS mentioned, and it's very much contrary to the gospel and to life in the Spirit.

Then please, instruct me, what do those Scriptures teach? I would also appreciate if you would at least reference your Biblical claims, even if you don't quote them.

Much love in Christ.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I pray for you, floatingaxe.

Don't pray for me. I've got an honourable and righteous man. I will pray for your wife, if you have one.

 

[KerrMetric]

Is this thread straight out of the Dark Ages?

What obscure part of Christianity teaches masturbation is a sin these day?

How can it be a sin? It's a natural and healthy part of being human.

And what of the sharing of masturbation of married couples? Is that a sin as well?

 

[Floatingaxe]

Is this thread straight out of the Dark Ages?

What obscure part of Christianity teaches masturbation is a sin these day?

What do you mean, "these days"?? Sin is always sin from Adam to the present. It never changes because God never changes.

 

[KerrMetric]

What do you mean, "these days"?? Sin is always sin from Adam to the present. It never changes because God never changes.

Yeah but masturbation isn't a sin. It's a sin in the same way walking is a sin or riding a bicycle.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Yeah but masturbation isn't a sin. It's a sin in the same way walking is a sin or riding a bicycle.

Yes it is a sin. But I suppose it is based on the spiritual depth of a peson to recognize it. Grow a little in Christ and you will discover that it is a sin against Him, yourself and your spouse.

 

[KerrMetric]

Yes it is a sin.

No it is not.

But I suppose it is based on the spiritual depth of a peson to recognize it.

Agreed. The more mature examaination and the lack of Scriptural support for it being a sin will show itself eventually.

Grow a little in Christ and you will discover that it is a sin against Him, yourself and your spouse.

No it is growth in Christ and the spousal relationship that shows it is not. Many Christian couples share this act as part of the loving relationship.

 

[Dannager]

Don't pray for me. I've got an honourable and righteous man. I will pray for your wife, if you have one.

Yep, your husband certainly never touches himself. And neither do any of the righteous Christian men you know. Definitely. Somehow, every Christian man you know managed to escape the 98% of men who touch. There's no way you're simply deluded into believing this.

 

[MezzaMorta]

Masturbation is a natural release, it is health for us both physically and mentally. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. [FONT=&quot][/FONT]

 

[Floatingaxe]

Masturbation is a natural release, it is health for us both physically and mentally. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Thank you, Mezza, for weighing in on the matter.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Yep, your husband certainly never touches himself. And neither do any of the righteous Christian men you know. Definitely. Somehow, every Christian man you know managed to escape the 98% of men who touch. There's no way you're simply deluded into believing this.

Some must, I am sure, but the majority of the men I know (and I know hundreds) are extremely Godly men who would not succumb to such temptation, and if they had such temptation, they agree with the scriptures about it.

1 Corinthians 10:13
The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand. When you are tempted, he will show you a way out so that you can endure.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Many Christian couples share this act as part of the loving relationship.

You are describing sex between a husband and wife. What goes on there is absolutely sanctioned by God. We are discussing self-sex, which is not. A married man who does that is committing adultery.

 

[KerrMetric]

Some must, I am sure, but the majority of the men I know (and I know hundreds) are extremely Godly men who would not succumb to such temptation...

I'll resist the obvious joke but you do not know the bedroom antics of hundreds of men.

And out of the hundreds you know I'd be shocked if less than 1% have not masturbated. In fact I'd think the number who have never done it is ZERO.

 

[KerrMetric]

You are describing sex between a husband and wife. What goes on there is absolutely sanctioned by God. We are discussing self-sex, which is not. A married man who does that is committing adultery.

No I am not. I am describing husband and wife who touch before each other. Many many couples do this.

committing adultery

Laughable.

 

[Dannager]

You are describing sex between a husband and wife. What goes on there is absolutely sanctioned by God. We are discussing self-sex, which is not. A married man who does that is committing adultery.

You know, I've avoided this conclusion until now, because I'd really like to avoid giving you this particular label, but your beliefs appear to have crossed the line from reasonable disagreement to outright insanity. You just called masturbation adultery. Really, just call it murder and be done with it.

 

[Dannager]

Some must, I am sure, but the majority of the men I know (and I know hundreds) are extremely Godly men who would not succumb to such temptation, and if they had such temptation, they agree with the scriptures about it.

Oh, yes, there's no way they're lying to you. There's certainly no reason that they'd tell you they don't touch and then go home and do it. Because they're Godly men. Righteous Godly men. And that automatically throws them into that less-than-2% group or men who don't touch.

 

[Melethiel]

It's getting a bit heated in here. Please talk civilly, folks.

 

[MezzaMorta]

You are describing sex between a husband and wife. What goes on there is absolutely sanctioned by God. We are discussing self-sex, which is not. A married man who does that is committing adultery.

Actually "sex" is defined as penetration. Mutual masturbation is not sex.

 

[daniel777]

well. . . . that kind of behavior. . . . makes someone uncleen in the OT, and aftwards they had to burn whatever was. . . contaminated. ask yourselves this: does it absolutely turn your stomach inside out add a few kicks to the forhead too, to think of Jesus. . . . .i can't even type it, but you get the implication.

 

[Dannager]

well. . . . that kind of behavior. . . . makes someone uncleen in the OT, and aftwards they had to burn whatever was. . . contaminated.

A proper understanding of the OT would lead you to the understanding that the unclean acts described make you ceremonially unclean, not spiritually or morally. I mean, geez, menstruation is described as unclean too.

ask yourselves this: does it absolutely turn your stomach inside out add a few kicks to the forhead too, to think of Jesus. . . . .i can't even type it, but you get the implication.

What, Jesus masturbating? I'm not sure if he did or not, but it really wouldn't bother me. Why does it disturb you?