What do you believe and why?

[johnford]

I can prove I exist by allowing you to come to my house and meet me in person.

Ken

That does not necessarily proves you exist.

 

[Ken-1122]

Thought are not $$$$ .... you are confusing thinking with empirical things.

I am not confusing anything; I am making the point that thoughts do not exist.

But you have not demonstrated what it is that exists.

That which can be experienced via one or more of our 5 senses

Then there is another reality beyond the material world.

How do you know? Can you provide proof of this reality?

Ken

 

[Ken-1122]

That does not necessarily proves you exist.

Yes it does! If you are allowed to experience my existence using one or more of your 5 senses, that is proof. It may not be the type of proof you want, but it is still proof.

Ken

 

[johnford]

I am not confusing anything; I am making the point that thoughts do not exist.

Interesting position. You don't think?

How do you know? Can you provide proof of this reality?

I am thinking of how to respond.

 

[Davian]

 

[TillICollapse]

Do you eat popcorn IRL ? Just curious

 

[Davian]

Do you eat popcorn IRL ? Just curious

Indeed. Our trusty Proctor Silex Hot Air Popcorn Pumper® - "The cornpopper that uses hot air, not hot oil" - is still going strong.

 

[Ken-1122]

Interesting position. You don't think?

No. Sounds reasonable to me.

I am thinking of how to respond.

Take your time...


K

 

[TillICollapse]

Indeed. Our trusty Proctor Silex Hot Air Popcorn Pumper® - "The cornpopper that uses hot air, not hot oil" - is still going strong.

Oh, very nice It's been awhile since I've had a popper, but I don't think I've ever used one that didn't use oil. I may have to find something comparable and give it a go

In related news: I don't usually dig on flavored popcorns, but I had some jalapeno and siracha flavored popcorn recently ... nomnomnomnomnom ...

 

[Eudaimonist]

That does not necessarily proves you exist.

That's insanity.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Deidre32]

Was raised a Catholic. About four years ago, deconverted from Christianity. Identified as an atheist for two of those years. Explored Buddhism and Islam...and most recently, I feel Deism resonates with me. I believe in God, but not necessarily that he is personally involved in every detail of my life. However, I don't subscribe to the traditional Deist stance that he is not involved at all, but I believe he could intervene if he so chooses. I still pray, albeit in a very different way than I once did as a Christian. But, a Deist is what I would say makes the most sense for me. I feel that God is not knowable, as can be seen in 'holy scriptures,' and there is beauty in that for me.

 

[TillICollapse]

Was raised a Catholic. About four years ago, deconverted from Christianity. Identified as an atheist for two of those years. Explored Buddhism and Islam...and most recently, I feel Deism resonates with me. I believe in God, but not necessarily that he is personally involved in every detail of my life. However, I don't subscribe to the traditional Deist stance that he is not involved at all, but I believe he could intervene if he so chooses. I still pray, albeit in a very different way than I once did as a Christian. But, a Deist is what I would say makes the most sense for me. I feel that God is not knowable, as can be seen in 'holy scriptures,' and there is beauty in that for me.

Beauty in the mystery IOW ?

 

[Deidre32]

Beauty in the mystery IOW ?

Yes! That's exactly how I feel about it. Couldn't find the right words.

 

[TillICollapse]

Yes! That's exactly how I feel about it. Couldn't find the right words.

Perhaps you'll dig this 18 min TED talk then ...

J.J. Abrams: The mystery box | Talk Video | TED.com